No more Brasilias at SkyWest...

mrivc211 said:
Some of my greatest memories of flying will always be as a young 23 year old kid sitting in the right seat of that airplane flying through all kinds of weather.

I remember the time we almost hit a UAV that wasn't on radar going through the coachella valley.

I remember my first flight as a Captain having the fleet manager in the jumpseat and flying to HDQ only to find wicked storms and a circling DME arc approach waiting for me to land on a runway built on a bluff.

I remember being given a late descending turn for an approach going into Medford only to hear the GPWS warnings going off, me giving a puzzled look at the Captain and him saying, "don't look at me stupid, pull up, lets get outta here".

Taking off out of Oxnard at o dark thirty with wicked Santa Ana winds blowing and landing at LAX east bound and the sun still hadn't risen.

The Modesto overnight with the Double Tree cookie waiting for us.

While on climb out having the EEC fail on us, then jumping up thinking we lost an engine. lol, that was funny to see our reaction.

The descent into PSP with "moderate" turbulence, landing, and seeing blue juice dripping from the bathroom ceiling.

Parking at the "box" at LAX, walking into the HUGE pilots lounge with all the leather chairs, and seeing our old chief pilot, Jon Tenpas greeting us with a smile.

so many more memories.......
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Love the blue juice on the ceiling story!!

I remember the early morning after I finished my EMB 120 type ride in Carlsbad, you were the Captain that flew me back to LAX! That was Spring of 06.

I had the EEC kick off on me a few times, I had forgotten about that! The first time at a high power setting makes you think you chucked an engine. It sends your heart rate through the roof! That being said I never lost an engine on the Brasilia. Worst situation was when we fried an entire electrical BUS in a snowstorm about 80 miles North of SLC one cold winter morning. That was a busy, busy flight.
 
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ATN_Pilot said:
I don't know that it is, but I haven't seen any evidence to indicate that it's as widespread as other problems, such as women being underpaid when compared to their male peers. Do you have any peer reviewed data on this? I'd find it interesting.
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What are you referrering to? These were both headline news not too long ago. Google STEM (science tech engineering math) graduation rates by field, and by race, its a government organization. I also do not deny occurrences of women being payed less than men, but can you find for me peer reviewed data that shows that women with the same qualifications and experience, holding the same position and longevity at a company, working equivalent hours, make less money? Example: corporate pay contract - $20hr for men, $18hr for women? Most research I've seen shows no inherent intolerance or bias, and are not objective. Factors affecting income can be attributed to other variables such as pay vs. schedule priority between men and women, willingness to take risks (move jobs, cities, worse schedules) for income improvement, the need of flexibility for child rearing, and differences in gender expectations of income requirements. Again not denying individual occurrences, but much of the research seems to say that correlation of statistical lower annual income = causation of men keeping a women down.
 
cactusjuba said:
What are you referrering to?
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I'm referring to actual empirical evidence that white or Asian males are being passed up for promotions and raises because of their race and gender to the same extent that minorities deal with, as you claimed.

I also do not deny occurrences of women being payed less than men, but can you find for me peer reviewed data that shows that women with the same qualifications and experience, holding the same position and longevity at a company, working equivalent hours, make less money?
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Yes, the Congressional Joint Economic Committee did an extensive report on this subject a few years back, and cited numerous studies, and received testimony from several prominent researchers on this topic. It's really beyond dispute at this point. Here is a link to the committee's report: http://jec.senate.gov/public/?a=Files.Serve&File_id=9118a9ef-0771-4777-9c1f-8232fe70a45c
 
scooter2525 said:
No thanks. Res rules aren't great for people who have done their time.
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When there is constant movement, I agree with you. But we have people here at ASA who have been on reserve for 4-5 years and counting. At our company reserve means that most of the work rules in the contract don't apply to you, you make less money (they fly you inefficiently to MMG), and get less time off. It's completely unsustainable.
 
Screaming_Emu said:
When there is constant movement, I agree with you. But we have people here at ASA who have been on reserve for 4-5 years and counting. At our company reserve means that most of the work rules in the contract don't apply to you, you make less money (they fly you inefficiently to MMG), and get less time off. It's completely unsustainable.
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So what should be done to fix it? Have a rotating reserve system or invest in the reserve rules?
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Reserve need not be miserable.
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And spreading reserve around would be a great way at ensuring that. Many times when using negotiating capital to make reserve less terrible the argument was "well, there's a smaller percentage of pilots who are on reserve...." If everyone sat reserve, that would get fixed quickly.

I'll even go a different route. If we make reserve less terrible, people like me who live in base might actually volunteer to sit reserve. Everyone else gets a line, which is a pretty descent existence, everybody wins.

But standing by while people have been experiencing a terrible reserve system for YEARS is just wrong.
 
Screaming_Emu said:
And spreading reserve around would be a great way at ensuring that. Many times when using negotiating capital to make reserve less terrible the argument was "well, there's a smaller percentage of pilots who are on reserve...." If everyone sat reserve, that would get fixed quickly.

I'll even go a different route. If we make reserve less terrible, people like me who live in base might actually volunteer to sit reserve. Everyone else gets a line, which is a pretty descent existence, everybody wins.

But standing by while people have been experiencing a terrible reserve system for YEARS is just wrong.
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In-base jerk on reserve is a wonderful lifestyle. Especially if you're at the top of the heap.

That said, I would still prefer to be a blockholder...
 
ATN_Pilot said:
No one is pulling the ladder up. The ladder is still there, you just have to climb it like the guy who came before you. You know, fair. As opposed to him having to climb it, and you being allowed to jump right to the top. I.e., the opposite of fair.
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What if his fat ass is in your way keeping you from making any progress?
 
Screaming_Emu said:
Either one. Both. See the post above this. I just answered that while you were asking.
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Did you read the post about the downfalls of the rotating reserve system? The reserve rules will actually get WORSE under that type of system. Why would your negotiators spend capital in fixing a system that folks would be exposed to 18 days a year?
 
Forcing senior pilots to sit reserve again, years after they already suffered through it and paid their dues, just because the junior guys now don't want to shoulder the full burden of paying their dues like those who came before them, is completely unacceptable. That's just pulling down the ladder.

@Seggy is absolutely correct. You address reserve by improving the reserve work rules, not by forcing everyone to endure the misery off and on for the rest of their careers. I bid reserve because it's a good deal for me after we improved the reserve work rules. As a result, someone junior to me who doesn't want to fly reserve doesn't have to. Under this idiotic idea of rotating reserve, that guy would get stuck with reserve again, while right now he doesn't have to, even those he's junior to someone who is bidding reserve!

Absolutely frickin' ridiculous.
 
Seggy said:
Did you read the post about the downfalls of the rotating reserve system? The reserve rules will actually get WORSE under that type of system. Why would your negotiators spend capital in fixing a system that folks would be exposed to 18 days a year?
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My point being we either need rotating reserve, or fix the system so that there is some advantage for somebody to want to sit reserve. Higher MMG, more days off would be a good place to start. You can't go crazy with the work rules as I understand there needs to be some flexibility built into reserve.

tl;dr: Plan A) Make reserve not suck. Plan B) Spread the pain if nobody gives a crap enough to fix it.
 
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