No furloughs at Pinnacle?

We got a memo that most of the involuntary furloughs were cancelled a couple weeks ago. They still went ahead with 7 of the involuntary furloughs (i think they hit the street July 1st if I recall correctly), and all of the voluntary furloughs. The company said this was due to a much higher than expected attrition rate. The company also said they are reducing the planned amount of furloughs from 450 to 350 when its all said and done.

What boggles me is why they went ahead and furloughed 7 people when I am getting calls from scheduling on every single day off trying to get me to fly. Above my pay-grade I guess!
 
Seggy said:
I heard that they canceled the 7 involuntary furloughs as well.
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No memos out yet. People are bailing left and right. Unfortunately everyone bailing is below me on the list. I've gotten more calls from scheduling trying to junior man me the past 2 weeks than I have my entire 4 1/2 years at XJ/9L.
 
I haven't had one call for a JM. I have spoken to quite a few people now about who have, but not me. I guess I'm special. Or I'm actually not special, and they don't love me. Either way I'm confused.
 
nc1982 said:
No memos out yet. People are bailing left and right. Unfortunately everyone bailing is below me on the list. I've gotten more calls from scheduling trying to junior man me the past 2 weeks than I have my entire 4 1/2 years at XJ/9L.
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I bailed from above :)
 
Memo is out...ALL involuntary furloughs rescinded. Let the open time extravaganza begin! Make your $$$ now folks, because come fall... say "Sayonara" to a bunch of folks, and it is going to be UGLY here after the 1st of October. Company is already using some contract maintenance, parts are scarce, F/As are quitting in droves...Rumor is that Sept. 30 might be the end...We shall see...For me, I am going to make as much dinero as the man is willing to offer up as long as none of my fellow are on the street...
 
As an addendum, I am VERY pleased that our junior pilots are going to be able to keep their jobs a while longer, make some cash and hopefully find better positions. I recommend surfing around looking at non-traditional type flying jobs to fill in the gap if it comes to that. Skydiving outfit, banner towing, pipeline patrol, 135 cargo if you have the mins. ( I am seriously considering going back to RAM(Package Express) or Mountain Air Cargo) The "Mountain", Ameriflight, Alpine, RAM, Flight Express, etc... have NEVER furloughed a pilot in their history. Not the best pay at some or benefits. However, having come from this world the amount of BS is significantly lower than the 121 world and actual flying skills mean something...like not busting you tail on some dark-a**ed night in the weather...Also, I HIGHLY recommend that you look into the military if you meet the requirements. This 121 stuff at the regionals is like middle school, except worse...Anyway, best of luck and be glad to help anyone and everyone I can.
 
I think he means the end of the Colgan operation. The Q400 flying is scheduled to end December 1st 2012, but there are rumors floating around that it will be ending early due to staffing.

That being said, on the latest vacancy bid there is a Q400 class starting August 9th. My guess is they plan to continue as planned until December but need more FO's to staff the flying. In fact for some odd reason the union is actually entertaining the idea of letting Q400 CA's requal as FO's but keeping CA pay.
 
And, that, folks is why we're up to our eyeballs in debt. Well, that and the fact Delta doesn't want to pay what they contractually owe...

Run a Q400 class in August, assume the guys will actually hit the line in mid to late October, so you're looking at spending tons of cash to train people to fly an airframe for a couple of months.....and then train them AGAIN on another airframe. Financially, and this sucks for some people, it makes more sense to accelerate the wind down if the staffing isn't there. But, hey! We're in bankruptcy! Why do that when we can just ask for more wage concessions from the court as management walks in with their hat in their hand, eyes on the floor saying they're broke and there wasn't anything they could do to avoid the matter....

The people I'm the most pissed at in this whole ordeal are the management douchebags that accept huge raises, then ask for wage concessions that put us worse off than a contract signed 13 years ago because they couldn't operate the airline in a cost effective manner. Labor costs had nothing to do with putting us in the position we are in now, but you can bet your last bottom dollar that they'll try to rebuild on the backs of labor while they light their cigars off of $100 dollar bills. Okay, maybe $50s.
 
Apparently we are running IAD SF3 flying into August now.

From what I've been told, our current United contract is quite profitable and management wants to milk it while they can.
 
v1valarob said:
Apparently we are running IAD SF3 flying into August now.

From what I've been told, our current United contract is quite profitable and management wants to milk it while they can.
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Wait? Isn't that the exact OPPOSITE of what they said about the United flying several months ago? Did it magically change post filing?
 
kellwolf said:
Wait? Isn't that the exact OPPOSITE of what they said about the United flying several months ago? Did it magically change post filing?
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They worked out a short term deal to wind it all down. Pretty sure if we were taking a loss on every flight, we would have just shut it down instead of winding down.

Was also told the same goes for Boston. We were supposed to be done weeks ago, but Penn Air didn't have their stuff together, so we were kept on under Penn Airs agreement which has a much higher pay out than our contract. Guys have been triple deadheading to PQI to fly one leg, just to keep it going.
 
v1valarob said:
They worked out a short term deal to wind it all down. Pretty sure if we were taking a loss on every flight, we would have just shut it down instead of winding down.

Was also told the same goes for Boston. We were supposed to be done weeks ago, but Penn Air didn't have their stuff together, so we were kept on under Penn Airs agreement which has a much higher pay out than our contract. Guys have been triple deadheading to PQI to fly one leg, just to keep it going.
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Hey Kolgan boy it's PenAir not Penn Air. As in Peninsula Airways not Pennsylvania Airways. Get it right :)

On a side note it was kinda sad to see the ole Captain America SF3 in BOS for the last time yesterday. She looked sad sitting over in North Cargo behind the JAL Dreamliner.
 
ajdwings said:
Hey Kolgan boy it's PenAir not Penn Air. As in Peninsula Airways not Pennsylvania Airways. Get it right :)

On a side note it was kinda sad to see the ole Captain America SF3 in BOS for the last time yesterday. She looked sad sitting over in North Cargo behind the JAL Dreamliner.
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Ever gonna return my calls or texts?
 
BE19Pilot said:
As an addendum, I am VERY pleased that our junior pilots are going to be able to keep their jobs a while longer, make some cash and hopefully find better positions. I recommend surfing around looking at non-traditional type flying jobs to fill in the gap if it comes to that. Skydiving outfit, banner towing, pipeline patrol, 135 cargo if you have the mins. ( I am seriously considering going back to RAM(Package Express) or Mountain Air Cargo) The "Mountain", Ameriflight, Alpine, RAM, Flight Express, etc... have NEVER furloughed a pilot in their history. Not the best pay at some or benefits. However, having come from this world the amount of BS is significantly lower than the 121 world and actual flying skills mean something...like not busting you tail on some dark-a**ed night in the weather...Also, I HIGHLY recommend that you look into the military if you meet the requirements. This 121 stuff at the regionals is like middle school, except worse...Anyway, best of luck and be glad to help anyone and everyone I can.
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It's not all glitz and glamor on the "other" side of the airport either.

http://forums.jetcareers.com/threads/ram-air.134079/
 
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