learhawkerbe400
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Wow. I'll make close to their captain pay flying an E190. There goes the neighborhood.
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Ajax
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So, hypothetically, never mind the flag of convenience is their business model aspect, but assuming they shored that up and just paid their pilots the same amount they currently do, would there be an issue?
Or is this more of a protect the homeland and its businesses type thing? I rewatched the ALPA video about it the other day, to be perfectly honest I had forgotten a lot of the details and wanted to refresh myself on it.
Or is this more of a protect the homeland and its businesses type thing? I rewatched the ALPA video about it the other day, to be perfectly honest I had forgotten a lot of the details and wanted to refresh myself on it.
etflies
Keeping calm, Chiving on.
If it's done under the flag of convenience business model then yes, because the camel's nose will be in the tent so to speak. Not many people paid much attention to the RJ when it first came around either because it wasn't wide spread at first.
Der rote Baron
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787 Captain, LGW base:
Gross basic pay £7470/month
Per diem £830/month
Minimum of 10 days off per month
28 days annual leave
so appr. 128 K Dollar plus per diem for an 787 Captain.
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
The other issue beyond the pay is that company based in a non EU country (Norway) are using a certificate from an EU country (Ireland) in order to get rights to fly EU-US routes while having no actual operations in the country that they are certified in. In theory, one of the ME3 could do the same thing by registering a certificate (or more likely just buying a struggling airline) in the EU somewhere and then get pretty much unlimited access to the EU-US market.
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All dragon~
What are their mins?
Seggy
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Please tell me you are joking.
SpiceWeasel
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If you have Twitter... Retweet this https://twitter.com/wearealpa/status/721003489430740994
Review ALPA.org advocacy page: http://www.alpa.org/en/advocacy/flag-of-convenience
See the press release: http://www.alpa.org/news-and-events...ir-decision-exposes-flawed-US-aviation-policy
It's our career! Be involved.
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All dragon~
Could I possibly be serious?
Seggy
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Yes, that is why I'm asking.
SpiceWeasel
Tre Kronor
Just a guess, but I'm willing to bet the question is asked because your comment (while an attempt at levity) isn't appropriate in this situation.
Ajax
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That's low for the airplane, but the pilot is hardly in the poor house. I know a few regional pilots that would jump at the opportunity to fly something bigger for a much larger pay check than they make at their current place.
I understand the problems with their tactics and that is bothersome, but lots of people just want to pay the bills.
I'm not one of them, I'd sooner get out of the industry altogether
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Oh, snap! I'll be sure to ask for your opinion next time to make sure any attempt at levity is correctly placed.
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Seggy
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That's the wrong way to look at it.
Ajax
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Who crossed the picket line? I thought that was a scab.
I'm with you, on this, btw. But I don't think the pay is the issue to be concerned with. The labor laws and flag of convenience is the problem
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
To make this serious levity (the best kind): Someone, somewhere, is going to do it.
We may not like it, but someone, somewhere, is going to do it. (That's what happens when you create a job - someone, somewhere, is going to do it. They'll look at it and say "that looks good enough" and do it.)
SpiceWeasel
Tre Kronor
Uh... what? You've been non-union way too long dude. Disappointing.
Guys fight to improve your pay and benefits, and you think that a joke about working at a flag-of-convenience carrier is appropriate???
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
-shrugs-
Again, someone is going to do it. I don't know how to stop that. Do I think they have any business in our skies? You bet not.
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
I mean, serious question: how do you cut off the labor supply?
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