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AAPalmTree said:
I find this thread interesting. Smart & early investing allows you to make decisions like this. Although it's not everything.. Money is always a deciding factor. This guy may have more than enough money to retire. Invest early and often, live within your means, keep the origional baby mama. You will find yourself with more money than the guy to your left and you have the freedom to thumb your nose at conventionality and do what you want. Good on him.
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You make it sound like the guy is going from 737 CA to his dream job of minor league ballpark ball boy (requiring some financial planning)....He's still going to be in the same tax bracket. Real tough decision (financially) going from 180k to 150k!!

Look at it this way, he's still making more on the 787 now than he was two years ago before the merger contract.
 
AAPalmTree said:
I find this thread interesting. Smart & early investing allows you to make decisions like this. Although it's not everything.. Money is always a deciding factor. This guy may have more than enough money to retire. Invest early and often, live within your means, keep the origional baby mama. You will find yourself with more money than the guy to your left and you have the freedom to thumb your nose at conventionality and do what you want. Good on him.
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Another quote comes to mind......"Money isn't everything, but a lack of it is...." -unknown
 
JEP said:
Another quote comes to mind......"Money isn't everything, but a lack of it is...." -unknown
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Agree completely. The point I was trying (sounds like unsuccessfully) to make was that wise financial planning lets you make decisions based on your parameters and nothing else. I sure as hell would rather be a 787 FO, 18 days off, 6 legs a month than holding a crappy 737 CA line. Everyone bagged on him for the financial aspect of the decision. Maybe the dude already has more money than he needs.
 
This thread has gotten silly. I'm an enthusiast, if I was to spend my career at an airline, so long as I could stay in base with similar pay and QOL, I'd probably fly as many types as I could. Switching planes could likely mean new routes and overnights, new crews to work with, and new experiences/stories. I guess that doesn't appeal to some, but I could see myself doing it for sure. To each their own, you can't call a guy a moron for taking a huge pay cut if you don't know his story. He could have a rich wife, a well-paying side job, or any number of things that could make him care less. We don't know.
 
ChasenSFO said:
I'd probably fly as many types as I could. Switching planes could likely mean new routes and overnights, new crews to work with, and new experiences/stories.
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I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer but flying is flying is flying, especially once the legs get over 30 minutes long. You sit. You look out the window. You talk. You read (approved stuff, of course). You eat. You look out the window. The MidPac looks about the same as the North Atlantic from 36,000 feet. And flying over the Rockies is pretty similar to flying over the Alps. Going to the same few places within a 10 block radius of your hotel in AMS is pretty much the same as walking to the 10 places in Chicago (other than the schmoke and pancake of course). There are 5% asshats on every fleet type, just as there are 15% of guys you try to buddy bid with. Don't get me wrong. Change is good some times, especially when you find your job life getting stale. That's the benefit of ending up at a carrier that has multiple fleet types. However, I think most of us find way more satisfaction with finding change in our personal lives than from flying a different type of plane.
 
Baronman said:
You make it sound like the guy is going from 737 CA to his dream job of minor league ballpark ball boy (requiring some financial planning)....He's still going to be in the same tax bracket. Real tough decision (financially) going from 180k to 150k!!

Look at it this way, he's still making more on the 787 now than he was two years ago before the merger contract.
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I can assure you, $30k is still $30k even when you make a solid six figure income. It's nothing to sneeze at, and it's certainly nothing to pass up just because you think a new airplane is neato.
 
Domestic and international are two different animals entirely.
 
ChasenSFO said:
This thread has gotten silly. I'm an enthusiast, if I was to spend my career at an airline, so long as I could stay in base with similar pay and QOL, I'd probably fly as many types as I could. Switching planes could likely mean new routes and overnights, new crews to work with, and new experiences/stories. I guess that doesn't appeal to some, but I could see myself doing it for sure. To each their own, you can't call a guy a moron for taking a huge pay cut if you don't know his story. He could have a rich wife, a well-paying side job, or any number of things that could make him care less. We don't know.
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BobDDuck said:
I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer but flying is flying is flying, especially once the legs get over 30 minutes long. You sit. You look out the window. You talk. You read (approved stuff, of course). You eat. You look out the window. The MidPac looks about the same as the North Atlantic from 36,000 feet. And flying over the Rockies is pretty similar to flying over the Alps. Going to the same few places within a 10 block radius of your hotel in AMS is pretty much the same as walking to the 10 places in Chicago (other than the schmoke and pancake of course). There are 5% asshats on every fleet type, just as there are 15% of guys you try to buddy bid with. Don't get me wrong. Change is good some times, especially when you find your job life getting stale. That's the benefit of ending up at a carrier that has multiple fleet types. However, I think most of us find way more satisfaction with finding change in our personal lives than from flying a different type of plane.
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You're both right.
 
BobDDuck said:
I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer but flying is flying is flying, especially once the legs get over 30 minutes long. You sit. You look out the window. You talk. You read (approved stuff, of course). You eat. You look out the window. The MidPac looks about the same as the North Atlantic from 36,000 feet. And flying over the Rockies is pretty similar to flying over the Alps. Going to the same few places within a 10 block radius of your hotel in AMS is pretty much the same as walking to the 10 places in Chicago (other than the schmoke and pancake of course). There are 5% asshats on every fleet type, just as there are 15% of guys you try to buddy bid with. Don't get me wrong. Change is good some times, especially when you find your job life getting stale. That's the benefit of ending up at a carrier that has multiple fleet types. However, I think most of us find way more satisfaction with finding change in our personal lives than from flying a different type of plane.
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True for the most part, but there's a lot to be said about flying a single 8 hour leg in a day instead of four 2 hour legs. Also, international layovers are generally a lot longer... I just woke up here in Sydney and don't leave until tomorrow afternoon. Gonna go for a dip in the ocean, then maybe do the Bondi walk. Beats the hell out of a 10 hour CAE layover (I herd @Screaming_Emu loves those).
 
dasleben said:
True for the most part, but there's a lot to be said about flying a single 8 hour leg in a day instead of four 2 hour legs. Also, international layovers are generally a lot longer... I just woke up here in Sydney and don't leave until tomorrow afternoon. Gonna go for a dip in the ocean, then maybe do the Bondi walk. Beats the hell out of a 10 hour CAE layover (I herd @Screaming_Emu loves those).
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I was talking about a guy who is senior on a 737 at United (probably doing either 1 leg transcons/South America flying or at worst two leg days). Sure, the RJ flying lifestlye doesn't compare at all.
 
dasleben said:
True for the most part, but there's a lot to be said about flying a single 8 hour leg in a day instead of four 2 hour legs. Also, international layovers are generally a lot longer... I just woke up here in Sydney and don't leave until tomorrow afternoon. Gonna go for a dip in the ocean, then maybe do the Bondi walk. Beats the hell out of a 10 hour CAE layover (I herd @Screaming_Emu loves those).
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You...suck.

CAE is to me as SNN was to you at Omni. Just with 100% more Waffle House.
 
surreal1221 said:
That long CAE Sheraton with the rooftop bar was always nice though. Just sayin'
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I haven't had that in YEEARS.

There's really nothing wrong with the Holiday Inn there. It's good on paper. Clean, they treat us fine, food options, etc. But when it's your 700th time there...
 
Its almost like MTY, stuck in the middle of no where with only one legitimate source of food / beverage.

The long HPN is fine. Different hotel, better location.
 
surreal1221 said:
Its almost like MTY, stuck in the middle of no where with only one legitimate source of food / beverage.

The long HPN is fine. Different hotel, better location.
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I think I did the long one both times, the hotel wasn't bad. I just hear HPN and have flashbacks to repositioning to the ramp in blowing snow because we were the last flight of the night.
 
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