CoffeeIcePapers
Well-Hung Member
The bottom quote is 21.5. Not every aircraft needs the AFM or POH.
Misconceptions
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The bottom quote is 21.5. Not every aircraft needs the AFM or POH.
SpiceWeasel
Tre Kronor
I guess lucky for me I've never flown any aircraft not subject to that rule.
These aircraft that were certified under the Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB)and under their regulations (The CAR) prior to the FAA being born are not subject to the same regulations but rather "Grandfathered" into the current system in 1974. A CAR 3 airplane doesn't need a POH, an AFM, a shoulder harness, an approved checklist, or placards in the cockpit.
Safe or not, that's a different question.
Safe or not, that's a different question.
Bernoulli Fan
Controller
You must turn your cell phone off before flying.
A "stall" means the engine quits working.
Thirteen fuel sumps is too many for a Cessna 172. (Oh wait, that one's true.)
MidlifeFlyer
Well-Known Member
It's ignorance, not necessarily stupidity. Some people think that flying is an incredible difficult think to do and are surprised that someone can actually go up by themselves after only a dozen or so lessons. Others, probably like this lady, may think just the opposite, that a quick lesson and off you go. Maybe she's had experience renting a motor boat.
BrewMaster
Well-Known Member
tgrayson
New Member
What about this FCC Regulation, 47 CFR 22.925?
Sec. 22.925 Prohibition on airborne operation of cellular telephones.
Cellular telephones installed in or carried aboard airplanes,
balloons or any other type of aircraft must not be operated while such
aircraft are airborne (not touching the ground). When any aircraft
leaves the ground, all cellular telephones on board that aircraft must
be turned off. The following notice must be posted on or near each
cellular telephone installed in any aircraft:
``The use of cellular telephones while this aircraft is airborne is
prohibited by FCC rules, and the violation of this rule could result in
suspension of service and/or a fine. The use of cellular telephones
while this aircraft is on the ground is subject to FAA regulations.''
Nismaxdan
Well-Known Member
I have had situations where we only taxied and logged the times. It's happened with four different instructors and one of them logged it differently.
The first occurrence was working towards my private. Upon start up the mike was stuck on transmit. We spent for ever trying to get it to work, to no avail. The school ate that. The instructor logged in my log book .1 flight time under "Duration of flight."
The second occurrence, was a low engine speed on the take off roll. We ate up almost 1500ft of runway. Elevation 55ft. Temp approx 20c. DA was less than 1200. The school ate that one.
The last two occurrences was with the attitude indicator.
The other instructors logged nothing under, "Duration of flight", but logged the time under ASEL, PIC, and dual received.
So I don't count those under my TT.
The first occurrence was working towards my private. Upon start up the mike was stuck on transmit. We spent for ever trying to get it to work, to no avail. The school ate that. The instructor logged in my log book .1 flight time under "Duration of flight."
The second occurrence, was a low engine speed on the take off roll. We ate up almost 1500ft of runway. Elevation 55ft. Temp approx 20c. DA was less than 1200. The school ate that one.
The last two occurrences was with the attitude indicator.
The other instructors logged nothing under, "Duration of flight", but logged the time under ASEL, PIC, and dual received.
So I don't count those under my TT.
tgrayson
New Member
Some placards are certainly required, as noted below in the CAR 3 excerpt. Also, the type certificate for some CAR 3 airplanes may require an AFM.
MARKINGS AND PLACARDS
§ 3.755 Markings and placards. (a) The
markings and placards specified are required for
all airplanes. Placards shall be displayed in a
conspicuous place and both shall be such that
they cannot be easily erased, disfigured, or
obscured. Additional informational placards and
instrument markings having a direct and
important bearing on safe operation may be
required by the Administrator when unusual
design, operating, or handling characteristics so
warrant.
MidlifeFlyer
Well-Known Member
It's an example of another misconception: The FAR are the only rules and regulations that are involved in flying.
Bernoulli Fan
Controller
It sure as heck would be easier if they were.
I had heard from multiple sources that the FCC rule only applied to IFR flights. Now I'm the idiot. I thought the only law I broke on a daily basis was the speed limit on the way to work.
Did you come across that reg in your nightly reading of the CFR, tgrayson?:laff:
MidlifeFlyer
Well-Known Member
Life would be easier if there were only one set of rules, all from the same source, but it tends not to work that way.
Nismaxdan
Well-Known Member
Oh it doesn't? Well that is considered norm at the school that I went to.
Douglas
Old School KSUX
http://forums.jetcareers.com/cfi-corner/78922-biennial-flight-review.html
we are talking about this is a separate thread.
we are talking about this is a separate thread.
Nismaxdan
Well-Known Member
Oh wait I understood you wrong. Yeah only the EOC count not the stage checks.
Sorry we will go there to continue the discussion.
poser765
Well-Known Member
This is a little different. I'm not talking about 141 stands flights. I'm talking about students not being concerned with a Flight Review because of a stage check.
Had a couple of students busted for this...and a couple of instructors chewed out for not catching it.
splash
your social justice comic center
That means you can't use your cell phone during a checkride or with the FAA siting in your plane.
TheresaPilot
Well-Known Member
I make my students turn off their cell phones before we fly because it's really annoying to hear the buzzing in the headsets in older planes. Lol.
