Mid-air over Denver....

[Maximilian_Jenius]

Nobody should do their first solo in an SR-22. Or an SR-20 for that matter.

Happens a lot. I’ve not taught primary in one but @bucksmith has and I bet he has a good perspective on that.


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@killbilly not sure how. Here in AZ. you cannot rent an SR-22, due to insurance. You have to have so many hours in type to be able to fly it solo. Most people that rent an SR-22, rent it dual with an instructor. Often the flight schools owner.

 

[Skåning]

It's nuts those involved were all so close to being smoking holes and didn't really seem to realize it. Glad it ended up good for both parties. I'd rather land thinking I lost an engine than knowing the ass end almost came off

 

[Fixtur]

It’ll get parked somewhere near the other junked ones they pull parts off of near my hangar.

Been a while since I have been there but it was a Metroliner junkyard last time I was.

Both ends of my hangar row. It’s like a little Metroliner ghetto.

If you need any more theres an old Ameriflight one at KBFL that hasn't moved in a decade, and a couple by Signature at KSBA.

 

[deadstick]

If the SR22’s left wing nocked the vertical stab, it had to be wings level, right? He wasn’t even making the turn for the runway.

 

[hammerhat]

Here in AZ. you cannot rent an SR-22, due to insurance. You have to have so many hours in type to be able to fly it solo.

You just buy it and problem solved.

FWIW I can name at least two places here in the Northeast that do primary training in SR-20 and -22, not sure what their deductibles and coverage limits are though.

 

[guywhoflies]

I remember when Delta Connection Academy got SR-20's for training.

 

[Murdoughnut]

I remember when Delta Connection Academy got SR-20's for training.

Makes sense for commercial training. But that narrow wing needs a lot of attention to airspeed on final. Not to mention everything in the pattern happening that much faster.

 

[deadstick]

I got to wondering whether the Cirrus was upset (attitude/LOC-I, not emotionally), and that’s why the pilot popped the chute. The pics on the ground don’t tell the tale. Doesn’t it take 1500 ft for the chute to fully deploy?

 

[killbilly]

@killbilly not sure how. Here in AZ. you cannot rent an SR-22, due to insurance. You have to have so many hours in type to be able to fly it solo. Most people that rent an SR-22, rent it dual with an instructor. Often the flight schools owner.

Money, Max. Money.

Cirrus Training facilities cater well to owners, but there are a *lot* of people who rent. The SR-20s around here go for $230-250 an hour wet, and the SR-22s go for around $260-280 dry. Instruction is $100 an hour on top of that. I don't imagine they're renting out an SR-22 to a <100TT pilot unless that pilot is carrying some serious insurance, but I don't know that for sure.

It's do-able. The facility is top-notch, it is run by some excellent instructors, and the Cirrus program is, I have to admit, pretty comprehensive from what I've been able to gather. I haven't paid for any of the courses, but I've seen the catalog and they do what I suspect is a pretty good job mating up the concept of flying a Cirrus with the rest of flight training.

It's just a different way to do things.

 

[USMCmech]

I got to wondering whether the Cirrus was upset (attitude/LOC-I, not emotionally), and that’s why the pilot popped the chute. The pics on the ground don’t tell the tale. Doesn’t it take 1500 ft for the chute to fully deploy?

Every ejection seat/CAPS/personal parachute has a deployment envelope that has to be understood.

600 AGL in level flight is the lowest altitude that they guarantee full chute deployment. Below that who knows. You will get some drag, and a streamed parachute is a lot better than no parachute at all.

 

[Itchy]

So.... Just wondering.... Which airplane do you suppose was worth more?

 

[Murdoughnut]

So.... Just wondering.... Which airplane do you suppose was worth more?

The Cirrus. By a wide margin. I thought about it for a hot second too.

 

[stroboli62]

BITD when a couple of my buddies were flying the Culvert for NWA Airlink/ Mesaba/ PinnaColaba

I am sure the SA227 was worth MORE than a Cirri....then

Every body wanting to fly a sleek ship had their dreams accomplished by this very aircraft

Today Cirrus drivers are demonstrating their dreams in a sleek SEL......

Some of us can barely afford RENTING a C182..LOLOLOL

 

[tiredcfi]

It's amazing this doesn't happen weekly at APA. Since no life was lost, nothing will be done.

 

[USMCmech]

The Cirrus. By a wide margin. I thought about it for a hot second too.

95% of the value in any twin are it's engines, props, and radios. So the airframe was basically worth scrap before the accident. Now with those components all perfectly serviceable the company is out a couple grand.

 

[NovemberEcho]

It's amazing this doesn't happen weekly at APA. Since no life was lost, nothing will be done.

not sure what could be done other than make sure you don’t overshoot your final?

 

[Roger Roger]

It's amazing this doesn't happen weekly at APA. Since no life was lost, nothing will be done.

I’m just glad everyone survived because this way nobody feels bad memeing the crap out of it.

 

[roundout]

Key lime be like “it’ll make the next run right?”

Sumbitch flew in.....

 

[Roger Roger]

Sumbitch flew in.....

CABIN WILL NOT MAINTAIN MAX DIFF

DEFERRED PRESSURIZATION PER MEL 21-01-01a

 

[Roger Roger]

95% of the value in any twin are it's engines, props, and radios. So the airframe was basically worth scrap before the accident. Now with those components all perfectly serviceable the company is out a couple grand.

Well, it’s a freight metro, “perfectly serviceable” might be overselling the engines, props, and especially radios a little bit