Life at Compass

I think it's everybody. I commuted into LAX last night from SFO. At 930 every flight was was delayed I finally got on a Virgin flight that was four hours late with flow. We then held for 30-40 minutes before we finally landed at 0215.
 
You weren't the only one. I imagine Delta will be footing the bill for the flights that went over the 3 hour mark. With that said, its all kind of B.S. with all the bomb threats and weather happening at the same time...

I want to say that the fine goes to the operator of the aircraft, not the codeshare. Otherwise the company wouldn't be so adamant about getting people the F off the plane if it were mamma D's bill. 2,090,000 (27,500 x 76) bucks to a regional erases all margins of profitability.

Apparently we had one pop the door at about 2:59 a while ago and the DOT still is trying to fine because the pax weren't actually OFF the plane at 3:00 hours. ;)
 
All I know is it didn't matter who I spoke to, nobody seemed to care about us approaching the 3 hour mark. Dispatch said that there are no fines if it's caused by the FAA. Ground stopped all pushes out of C7, 8 and 9 for over an hour, so I think they're gonna bank on that. Who knows. We did what we could.
 
DATE: December 20, 2016

As most of you know by now, we announced last week that our 6 Embraer 170 aircraft would return to Delta Air Lines beginning in February of 2017, at a rate of two per month. I want to reiterate what Rick Leach and Bob Gleason relayed in their joint memo last week and in last week’s call—this reduction is not due to performance. Delta simply needed 170 lift on the East Coast, and the majority of our operation is on the West Coast. Delta has made it clear all along that we are going to be their West Coast (LAX) Delta Connection operator, and they prefer us not to use the Embraer 170 in that theater.

Now that the decision has been made, we have to take a look inward to see what effects this reduction will have on Compass going forward. There will obviously be a reduction in the number of hours we are scheduled to operate the Delta Connection brand. We currently operate up to approximately 13,000 hours per month for Delta. After all 6 aircraft are removed, that number could be reduced by approximately 1,000 to 1,500 hours.

Compass typically determines its crew staffing model based upon the number of hours scheduled/projected to be flown each month. Today we are very well staffed with pilots, and if we were to continue with our current staffing model, we’d be approximately 120+ pilots “heavy” by April 2017 (including projected attrition). Obviously we cannot justify having 100+ pilots more than needed, so we are adjusting our staffing model accordingly.

Let me start by saying that there are NO plans to furlough any pilots. Instead, we will reduce the number of new hire classes and the number of upgrades planned for 2017. December new hire classes will begin as scheduled, the last one being Class #02-17, which starts on Thursday, December 22nd. As far as upgrades go, we will honor the award for Class 2-17C, which begins in January 2017. We will keep a close eye on our attrition levels, to determine when new hire classes should be added and when upgrades should resume. As Rick and Bob mentioned, we are actively seeking new flying to use the extra crews we will have in the coming months. We will adjust hiring and upgrade classes to support any success we may have in achieving additional flying. As we search for additional flying, we will also look for creative ways to utilize our pilots in the months ahead.

Because we will have a temporary surplus of pilots, we will allow a limited number of Personal Leaves to those wishing to take a little extra time off. This will start in January 2017 and continue through May 2017. All requests for Personal Leaves will be handled in accordance with CBA Chapter 13 (A). The number of pilots able to take leave will be based upon our projected “needs of service.” You may contact any member of FLTOPS Management for additional information.

In closing, it is very important that you understand our performance was not behind the return of the 170s to Delta. You have worked very hard this year, and I am extremely proud of our FLTOPS performance numbers. While we do have some room for improvement in First Flight D0, D0 in general, and Arrival-14, the folks at Delta, as well as our COO and President, have seen the improvement you’ve made in our overall performance numbers this year.
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I'm glad they're keeping us new hires around for the time being. I wish we hadn't lost the planes but I'm happy to have a job. (if there's anything wrong with sharing company memos please PM me and I'll remove it.)
 
Blowing the slide? That's ridiculous and I wouldn't entertain that as a prudent course of action. Especially as the rule allows overages for security, safety, and disruption of airport ops.

https://www.transportation.gov/brie...irline-tarmac-delays-provides-other-passenger

"The new rule prohibits U.S. airlines operating domestic flights from permitting an aircraft to remain on the tarmac for more than three hours without deplaning passengers, with exceptions allowed only for safety or security or if air traffic control advises the pilot in command that returning to the terminal would disrupt airport operations. U.S. carriers operating international flights departing from or arriving in the United States must specify, in advance, their own time limits for deplaning passengers, with the same exceptions applicable."

Going down the slide onto a busy ramp is far more dangerous than remaining on the plane 15-20 minutes over the 3 hour mark. You'll easily have a few injuries and lawsuits.

I can see the FAA and lawyers salivating at that one. "Why did you order the evacuation, was anyone's life in danger? ".

The fine doesn't go to me, but I'm sure the FAA would have a field day With your ticket.
 
Blowing the slide? That's ridiculous and I wouldn't entertain that as a prudent course of action. Especially as the rule allows overages for security, safety, and disruption of airport ops.

https://www.transportation.gov/brie...irline-tarmac-delays-provides-other-passenger

"The new rule prohibits U.S. airlines operating domestic flights from permitting an aircraft to remain on the tarmac for more than three hours without deplaning passengers, with exceptions allowed only for safety or security or if air traffic control advises the pilot in command that returning to the terminal would disrupt airport operations. U.S. carriers operating international flights departing from or arriving in the United States must specify, in advance, their own time limits for deplaning passengers, with the same exceptions applicable."

Going down the slide onto a busy ramp is far more dangerous than remaining on the plane 15-20 minutes over the 3 hour mark. You'll easily have a few injuries and lawsuits.

I can see the FAA and lawyers salivating at that one. "Why did you order the evacuation, was anyone's life in danger? ".

The fine doesn't go to me, but I'm sure the FAA would have a field day With your ticket.

The CP was making the point of blowing the slide because the pax "need the opportunity to deplane" but that it wouldn't be expected for anyone to actually order a EVAC and have people go and exit the airplane. Again we were just as blown away when that was mentioned. But I'm just trying to clarify what was said. Especially as it seems it shouldn't apply due to an FAA issued delay.
 
The CP was making the point of blowing the slide because the pax "need the opportunity to deplane" but that it wouldn't be expected for anyone to actually order a EVAC and have people go and exit the airplane. Again we were just as blown away when that was mentioned. But I'm just trying to clarify what was said. Especially as it seems it shouldn't apply due to an FAA issued delay.
Dumbest thing I have ever heard. Who said it? D or J?. How about send acars messages that are time stamped stating you are trying to get back to a gate etc. You don't have to pay the fine and you did your job. They can pound sand if it didn't work out.
 
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Dumbest thing I have ever heard. Who said it? D or J?. How about send acars messages that are time stamped stating you are trying to get back to a gate etc. You don't have to pay the fine and you did your job. They can pound sand if it didn't work out.
Yeah that IS really stupid. I have to wonder if he was actually advocating blowing the slides, or just making an observation that it would cheaper then keeping the pax on past the 3 hour limit...you know as more of a "the more you know" sort of deal.
 
Dumbest thing I have ever heard. Who said it? D or J?. How about send acars messages that are time stamped stating you are trying to get back to a gate etc. You don't have to pay the fine and you did your job. They can pound sand if it didn't work out.

It was J, this was a few months back, again not sure how serious he was, but like Prop Settin said, he said it with a straight face and then mentioned how the fines would go to CPZ, and we did some basic math and the numbers for the fines were staggering.
 
DATE: December 20, 2016

As most of you know by now, we announced last week that our 6 Embraer 170 aircraft would return to Delta Air Lines beginning in February of 2017, at a rate of two per month. I want to reiterate what Rick Leach and Bob Gleason relayed in their joint memo last week and in last week’s call—this reduction is not due to performance. Delta simply needed 170 lift on the East Coast, and the majority of our operation is on the West Coast. Delta has made it clear all along that we are going to be their West Coast (LAX) Delta Connection operator, and they prefer us not to use the Embraer 170 in that theater.

Now that the decision has been made, we have to take a look inward to see what effects this reduction will have on Compass going forward. There will obviously be a reduction in the number of hours we are scheduled to operate the Delta Connection brand. We currently operate up to approximately 13,000 hours per month for Delta. After all 6 aircraft are removed, that number could be reduced by approximately 1,000 to 1,500 hours.

Compass typically determines its crew staffing model based upon the number of hours scheduled/projected to be flown each month. Today we are very well staffed with pilots, and if we were to continue with our current staffing model, we’d be approximately 120+ pilots “heavy” by April 2017 (including projected attrition). Obviously we cannot justify having 100+ pilots more than needed, so we are adjusting our staffing model accordingly.

Let me start by saying that there are NO plans to furlough any pilots. Instead, we will reduce the number of new hire classes and the number of upgrades planned for 2017. December new hire classes will begin as scheduled, the last one being Class #02-17, which starts on Thursday, December 22nd. As far as upgrades go, we will honor the award for Class 2-17C, which begins in January 2017. We will keep a close eye on our attrition levels, to determine when new hire classes should be added and when upgrades should resume. As Rick and Bob mentioned, we are actively seeking new flying to use the extra crews we will have in the coming months. We will adjust hiring and upgrade classes to support any success we may have in achieving additional flying. As we search for additional flying, we will also look for creative ways to utilize our pilots in the months ahead.

Because we will have a temporary surplus of pilots, we will allow a limited number of Personal Leaves to those wishing to take a little extra time off. This will start in January 2017 and continue through May 2017. All requests for Personal Leaves will be handled in accordance with CBA Chapter 13 (A). The number of pilots able to take leave will be based upon our projected “needs of service.” You may contact any member of FLTOPS Management for additional information.

In closing, it is very important that you understand our performance was not behind the return of the 170s to Delta. You have worked very hard this year, and I am extremely proud of our FLTOPS performance numbers. While we do have some room for improvement in First Flight D0, D0 in general, and Arrival-14, the folks at Delta, as well as our COO and President, have seen the improvement you’ve made in our overall performance numbers this year.
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I'm glad they're keeping us new hires around for the time being. I wish we hadn't lost the planes but I'm happy to have a job. (if there's anything wrong with sharing company memos please PM me and I'll remove it.)

Is that memo for release?
 
This regional business just confuses the heck out of me. Why is it that Compass loses the jets as they need more east coast lift, meanwhile Skywest is adding delta flights out of LAX? Same in SEA, Skywest is throwing new ERJs in SEA for Delta...
 
This regional business just confuses the heck out of me. Why is it that Compass loses the jets as they need more east coast lift, meanwhile Skywest is adding delta flights out of LAX? Same in SEA, Skywest is throwing new ERJs in SEA for Delta...

Because it's Delta. Start a Delta Connection history lesson from the Comair strike of Summer 2001 to Present and you'll see why.
 
This regional business just confuses the heck out of me. Why is it that Compass loses the jets as they need more east coast lift, meanwhile Skywest is adding delta flights out of LAX? Same in SEA, Skywest is throwing new ERJs in SEA for Delta...

They're different airframes as far as network planning goes. The 170's have a different use than 175EWT's.
 
DATE: December 20, 2016

As most of you know by now, we announced last week that our 6 Embraer 170 aircraft would return to Delta Air Lines beginning in February of 2017, at a rate of two per month. I want to reiterate what Rick Leach and Bob Gleason relayed in their joint memo last week and in last week’s call—this reduction is not due to performance. Delta simply needed 170 lift on the East Coast, and the majority of our operation is on the West Coast. Delta has made it clear all along that we are going to be their West Coast (LAX) Delta Connection operator, and they prefer us not to use the Embraer 170 in that theater.

Now that the decision has been made, we have to take a look inward to see what effects this reduction will have on Compass going forward. There will obviously be a reduction in the number of hours we are scheduled to operate the Delta Connection brand. We currently operate up to approximately 13,000 hours per month for Delta. After all 6 aircraft are removed, that number could be reduced by approximately 1,000 to 1,500 hours.

Compass typically determines its crew staffing model based upon the number of hours scheduled/projected to be flown each month. Today we are very well staffed with pilots, and if we were to continue with our current staffing model, we’d be approximately 120+ pilots “heavy” by April 2017 (including projected attrition). Obviously we cannot justify having 100+ pilots more than needed, so we are adjusting our staffing model accordingly.

Let me start by saying that there are NO plans to furlough any pilots. Instead, we will reduce the number of new hire classes and the number of upgrades planned for 2017. December new hire classes will begin as scheduled, the last one being Class #02-17, which starts on Thursday, December 22nd. As far as upgrades go, we will honor the award for Class 2-17C, which begins in January 2017. We will keep a close eye on our attrition levels, to determine when new hire classes should be added and when upgrades should resume. As Rick and Bob mentioned, we are actively seeking new flying to use the extra crews we will have in the coming months. We will adjust hiring and upgrade classes to support any success we may have in achieving additional flying. As we search for additional flying, we will also look for creative ways to utilize our pilots in the months ahead.

Because we will have a temporary surplus of pilots, we will allow a limited number of Personal Leaves to those wishing to take a little extra time off. This will start in January 2017 and continue through May 2017. All requests for Personal Leaves will be handled in accordance with CBA Chapter 13 (A). The number of pilots able to take leave will be based upon our projected “needs of service.” You may contact any member of FLTOPS Management for additional information.

In closing, it is very important that you understand our performance was not behind the return of the 170s to Delta. You have worked very hard this year, and I am extremely proud of our FLTOPS performance numbers. While we do have some room for improvement in First Flight D0, D0 in general, and Arrival-14, the folks at Delta, as well as our COO and President, have seen the improvement you’ve made in our overall performance numbers this year.
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I'm glad they're keeping us new hires around for the time being. I wish we hadn't lost the planes but I'm happy to have a job. (if there's anything wrong with sharing company memos please PM me and I'll remove it.)

Huh....All I see is a letter from your cousins,brothers, friend...... ;-)
 
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