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Hmm...it will be interesting to see how the incoming CP handles this sort of thing.

Same airplane, very different cultures and SOPs, that's for sure!
 
CPZ is the most standard company I've ever seen. If the book says to drop the brake while using your left hand, everyone would do it and check airman would debrief it if you didn't.
And I hope it stays that way! All the guys in my upgrade class were from other regionals and said the exact same thing.
 
And I hope it stays that way! All the guys in my upgrade class were from other regionals and said the exact same thing.

It's good and bad. There are some things in the book that are downright nonsensical. Sometimes I'm afraid people replace being a pilot with being a librarian.
 
Well they do have to, it's our policy.
You haven't had to have the phone call yet from the CPs about being late or why Delta reported to them that you blocked out but were pissed that you were still at the gate 10+ Mins later. The last one hasn't happened to me personally but I know it has to others.
Wow, I must've been drunk JC'ing yesterday or something jk. I totally misspoke! You are correct, they do it that way because its policy, and I will also always do it that way because its policy too!!!:)
 
I wish we could use that as an excuse...

Fact is ramp and Mx delays are killing CP right now.
I see the daily ops metrics for SEA and you guys usually have 2-3 mx delays on a daily basis. Thats alot for the amount of flying you guys do in and out of SEA. What's up with your mx? Our mx managers and HQ in ATL would blow a gasket if we had that many mx delays on a daily basis!
 
A plane I used to fly, at a company that is now gone, had an FMS that could be fooled into sending whatever OUT and IN times, you wanted...and even OFF and ON times, if you were forgetful or daring. A gentleman who was, shall we say, someone who was trusted with the responsibility of reinforcing procedures, was utilizing the FMS trickery one day (what one of my friends referred to as "Time Traveling". TDP occurred. TDP limits were about to be exceeded. Let's just say Einstein came flying through that parking lot, ticking clock and all, but older. And then the Libyans showed up all pissed. They wanted to know what gives. Was the TDP limit exceeded or was there "stealing of plutonium" going on. The stealing of plutonium was the cheaper alternative so that was the explanation and you know what happened to Dr Brown...
 
I'm just kidding, there was a big sigh of relief that the limits were not exceeded and that ended that.
 
I see the daily ops metrics for SEA and you guys usually have 2-3 mx delays on a daily basis. Thats alot for the amount of flying you guys do in and out of SEA. What's up with your mx? Our mx managers and HQ in ATL would blow a gasket if we had that many mx delays on a daily basis!
As an A&P as well as an ATP I'm unimpressed with it. Here's an example. DC fuel pump deferred. Cat B good for three days. Day one MX throws a relay at it, no help. Day 2 MX throws a pressure switch at it, no help. Day three, deferral drops dead when we hit the deck in SEA. Someone gets the idea to pull a panel and look at the pump, something that should have been done on DAY 1 and low and behold lookie there, a broken wire on the pump. Sigh. Troubleshooting 101, if a pump doesn't work, check the pump first. I has the most moving parts.
 
I see the daily ops metrics for SEA and you guys usually have 2-3 mx delays on a daily basis. Thats alot for the amount of flying you guys do in and out of SEA. What's up with your mx? Our mx managers and HQ in ATL would blow a gasket if we had that many mx delays on a daily basis!
I've seen some ridiculous write ups lately. For example, a missing static wick. Captain asked me about it when I came in from a walk around and I couldn't believe I missed it, so I go back out there to look at the top of the tail. WTF... it's there, but you need to take a couple steps back to see it!! As to whether or not it created a delay, I don't know. But it was unnecessary work generated by what I would attribute to a captain not wanting to go outside and look for himself.

I feel like MX is making a valiant effort but there's a lack of guidance on some things from the company.
 
I've seen some ridiculous write ups lately. For example, a missing static wick. Captain asked me about it when I came in from a walk around and I couldn't believe I missed it, so I go back out there to look at the top of the tail. WTF... it's there, but you need to take a couple steps back to see it!! As to whether or not it created a delay, I don't know. But it was unnecessary work generated by what I would attribute to a captain not wanting to go outside and look for himself.

I feel like MX is making a valiant effort but there's a lack of guidance on some things from the company.

Consider that it wasn't just the FO who missed it, but the mechanic who came out to do the deferral.
 
Consider that it wasn't just the FO who missed it, but the mechanic who came out to do the deferral.
True, but if it goes in the logbook with or without MX there, it's going to create paperwork.

If LAX wasn't bad enough with gates, I've had to wait for a gate the last 3 arrivals there. This morning it was a 30 minute wait, supposedly because of IOE. Not much we can do about that. But I try to do what I can!
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I flew a plane last week with a NEF for a deferred RAT pin. No big deal. I got on the same plane the next day and saw a write up for RAT pin missing. The corrective action was "previously deferred per NEF" blah blah blah. Whoever that captain was could have taken five seconds to look at the SDI card and saved a call to mx and a visit from contract mx in an outstation.

One of the reasons we have so many mx delays is because of situations like this.
 
I flew a plane last week with a NEF for a deferred RAT pin. No big deal. I got on the same plane the next day and saw a write up for RAT pin missing. The corrective action was "previously deferred per NEF" blah blah blah. Whoever that captain was could have taken five seconds to look at the SDI card and saved a call to mx and a visit from contract mx in an outstation.

One of the reasons we have so many mx delays is because of situations like this.
Your MCC should have advised that Captain that it has already been written up and that contract mx would not be coming. That's failure to comprehend on both the captain and Mx Control. Waste of time and money.:rolleyes:
 
Your MCC should have advised that Captain that it has already been written up and that contract mx would not be coming. That's failure to comprehend on both the captain and Mx Control. Waste of time and money.:rolleyes:
Very true. That's one of the problems of having lots of new people in new positions.
 
I've seen some ridiculous write ups lately. For example, a missing static wick. Captain asked me about it when I came in from a walk around and I couldn't believe I missed it, so I go back out there to look at the top of the tail. WTF... it's there, but you need to take a couple steps back to see it!! As to whether or not it created a delay, I don't know. But it was unnecessary work generated by what I would attribute to a captain not wanting to go outside and look for himself.

I feel like MX is making a valiant effort but there's a lack of guidance on some things from the company.

What do you mean by ridiculous write ups? If it's broken/missing, it needs to be written up, regardless of what it is.
 
What do you mean by ridiculous write ups? If it's broken/missing, it needs to be written up, regardless of what it is.

His story is pretty clear -- the wick wasn't missing, but a writeup was created saying it was. Either the FO did a poor job looking during the walkaround and missed it being there, or mx failed to clean up the writeup when they fixed it. Which one was it most likely?
 
His story is pretty clear -- the wick wasn't missing, but a writeup was created saying it was. Either the FO did a poor job looking during the walkaround and missed it being there, or mx failed to clean up the writeup when they fixed it. Which one was it most likely?
Because I saw the corrective action for this deferral on that airplane, I can say it was most definitely written up when nothing was missing or broken. @juxtapilot knows ;)

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for writing things up when they're broken or missing. I don't know anyone who isn't. Especially since you can defer most common issues and avoid a delay. But I'd like to save those necessary maintenance delays for the real issues :)
 
I flew a plane last week with a NEF for a deferred RAT pin. No big deal. I got on the same plane the next day and saw a write up for RAT pin missing. The corrective action was "previously deferred per NEF" blah blah blah. Whoever that captain was could have taken five seconds to look at the SDI card and saved a call to mx and a visit from contract mx in an outstation.

One of the reasons we have so many mx delays is because of situations like this.

Now this is rich on so many levels...levels that some may not even recognize.
 
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