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Furloughing a few hundo off the bottom means a new system bid, countless training events, and potentially years to get people in their new seats. Hiring people directly onto the 777 does have it managerial drawbacks, afterall
 
statusseeker1 said:
Furloughing a few hundo off the bottom means a new system bid, countless training events, and potentially years to get people in their new seats. Hiring people directly onto the 777 does have it managerial drawbacks, afterall
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Plus to get the SAM down to a level to enter into 4.A.2.c would mean the 777 would get super inefficient from a pairing design
 
That doesn't surprise me about purple. I work at an e-comm business and I'm pretty much constantly negotiating our freight rates with purple, brown and the USPS. According to our local FedEx rep, they're getting pounded right now. She had tears in her eyes at one point when I notified her we'd be switching over to another service.

I couldn't imagine going from the right seat of a 777 at a forever company to the right seat of an RJ flying to exotic locales like Dayton and Pensacola. Oof.
 
FlyingAccountant said:
That doesn't surprise me about purple. I work at an e-comm business and I'm pretty much constantly negotiating our freight rates with purple, brown and the USPS. According to our local FedEx rep, they're getting pounded right now. She had tears in her eyes at one point when I notified her we'd be switching over to another service.

I couldn't imagine going from the right seat of a 777 at a forever company to the right seat of an RJ flying to exotic locales like Dayton and Pensacola. Oof.
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derg said:
Odd how this is somehow a joke to regional pilots but they know damned well that if it was them, they would demand a march on Washington.

*mainline too
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What would the equivalent of this even be for regional pilots? Maybe a letter from the VP of Operations offering a sign on bonus if they resign and accept a job at their local McDonald's?
 
MikeD said:
Interesting that they didn’t make a program like this with their feeder airlines such as Empire with ATR flying, perhaps as a bullpen to getting back to the FedEx mainline. Almost like a cargo version of Jets4Jobs…..just with turboprops…or even add jets.

I guess wouldn’t be as lucrative.
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Especially odd since, as I understand it, some other airlines with regional feed have such "flow down" programs that do work like that. For instance as far as I know, if American were to furlough pilots, the furloughees would be entitled to any available jobs at their wholly-owned regionals until they get recalled. Another thing with the FedEx letter is that it doesn't say anything about the possibility of being recalled or returning to FedEx- but then I suppose they technically aren't furloughing as yet.

I doubt this will be a popular sentiment, and I think leaving FedEx for regional Hell would be a horrible career move, but I don't think it's completely outlandish to think their might be some takers. A few years ago I remember someone on here saying they knew someone who left Alaska for Envoy.
 
Hiboglossi said:
Especially odd since, as I understand it, some other airlines with regional feed have such "flow down" programs that do work like that. For instance as far as I know, if American were to furlough pilots, the furloughees would be entitled to any available jobs at their wholly-owned regionals until they get recalled. Another thing with the FedEx letter is that it doesn't say anything about the possibility of being recalled or returning to FedEx- but then I suppose they technically aren't furloughing as yet.

I doubt this will be a popular sentiment, and I think leaving FedEx for regional Hell would be a horrible career move, but I don't think it's completely outlandish to think their might be some takers. A few years ago I remember someone on here saying they knew someone who left Alaska for Envoy.
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That would be incorrect. There is zero flow back to a wholly owned.
 
DeltaAlphaNovember said:
That would be incorrect. There is zero flow back to a wholly
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Interesting, I thought I remembered hearing about a flow down with American and its wholly owned regionals. Did it used to be a thing and is no longer in the contract?

I know when Compass was founded, there was some sort of flow down provision where in the event of furloughs at Northwest, they would flow down to Compass until they were recalled, and Compass pilots would be furloughed to accommodate them.
 
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