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Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Took my family on PSTs to Hawaii on our 737-800. MAX9 on the way back. Zero issues with seats or the plane type. :)

I do have to wonder about people complaining about plane seats, let’s just say it’s not the plane size, it’s their own size. (No offense, not calling you or Derg fat. Just a general observation of the American public).
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Lack of any form of lumbar support. If I don't bring my own pillow or a jacket to roll up I'm in agony after 20 minutes. Airbus is slightly better, but the 737 seats are torture devices for me.
 
milleR said:
Lack of any form of lumbar support. If I don't bring my own pillow or a jacket to roll up I'm in agony after 20 minutes. Airbus is slightly better, but the 737 seats are torture devices for me.
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For me, it’s that knob on the right for lumbar. I find most comfort by completely deflating the sac in the seat. I swear, some guys have it full inflated, sticking like a knife into your spine. How is that comfortable? One of the first things I do is use the lumbar support and turn it all the way so the seat isn’t stabbing my back, and deflate it to an almost 0 condition.


Also, the same knob on the opposite side controls vertical backseat height pitch, and changing that does wonders. I’ll adjust it so the top of the seat is just about 1/2” higher than the top of my shoulder. That seems to work great. This adjusts the vertical seat height, but the “side” flank panels of the back seats also move with the seat. By adjusting that, I find a good position for my back.

Every plane is different it seems, but my rule of thumb seems to work for my back.


Another knob I learned, the right side by your thigh. Some guys have that turned fully up. WTF? You like cutting circulation underneath your thigh muscles? I also let that run nearly full down / straight level position. This way my legs have a comfortable position where the seat ends.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
For me, it’s that knob on the right for lumbar. I find most comfort by completely deflating the sac in the seat. I swear, some guys have it full inflated, sticking like a knife into your spine. How is that comfortable? One of the first things I do is use the lumbar support and turn it all the way so the seat isn’t stabbing my back, and deflate it to an almost 0 condition.


Also, the same knob on the opposite side controls vertical backseat height pitch, and changing that does wonders. I’ll adjust it so the top of the seat is just about 1/2” higher than the top of my shoulder. That seems to work great. This adjusts the vertical seat height, but the “side” flank panels of the back seats also move with the seat. By adjusting that, I find a good position for my back.

Every plane is different it seems, but my rule of thumb seems to work for my back.


Another knob I learned, the right side by your thigh. Some guys have that turned fully up. WTF? You like cutting circulation underneath your thigh muscles? I also let that run nearly full down / straight level position. This way my legs have a comfortable position where the seat ends.
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You do know everyone is "built" differently, right? I need the lumbar support for my back issues. I do try to remember to reset the lumbar to a more neutral position when I finish flying. It seems the short pilots at my company don't extend the same courtesy; more often than not, I get in and the seat is in the full vertical position and the rudder pedals are full forward. That makes for a fun maneuver to get into the seat.
 
guywhoflies said:
You do know everyone is "built" differently, right? I need the lumbar support for my back issues. I do try to remember to reset the lumbar to a more neutral position when I finish flying. It seems the short pilots at my company don't extend the same courtesy; more often than not, I get in and the seat is in the full vertical position and the rudder pedals are full forward. That makes for a fun maneuver to get into the seat.
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It's like putting the toilet seat down, but for pilots!
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
For me, it’s that knob on the right for lumbar. I find most comfort by completely deflating the sac in the seat. I swear, some guys have it full inflated, sticking like a knife into your spine. How is that comfortable? One of the first things I do is use the lumbar support and turn it all the way so the seat isn’t stabbing my back, and deflate it to an almost 0 condition.


Also, the same knob on the opposite side controls vertical backseat height pitch, and changing that does wonders. I’ll adjust it so the top of the seat is just about 1/2” higher than the top of my shoulder. That seems to work great. This adjusts the vertical seat height, but the “side” flank panels of the back seats also move with the seat. By adjusting that, I find a good position for my back.

Every plane is different it seems, but my rule of thumb seems to work for my back.


Another knob I learned, the right side by your thigh. Some guys have that turned fully up. WTF? You like cutting circulation underneath your thigh muscles? I also let that run nearly full down / straight level position. This way my legs have a comfortable position where the seat ends.
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That’s nice for you, those of us in the back don’t have such creature comforts.
 
MikeD said:
Some of these new pilots who have skated up to a major with multiple CJOs and fairly easy street, are going to have a very shocked rude awakening if/when their first furlough or merger/SLI occurs.
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My bet is a crap ton will bypass recall and leave the profession, which will be a nice seniority boost for those who stay.
 
phill1174 said:
This! The younger generation seems to be less tolerant of the games and QOL gut punches than the past.
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This is actually true. There’s an airline that people I know keep tabs on at SouthernJets that has an issue with new hires… just quitting. Not getting hired anywhere else, just leaving the profession.
 
phill1174 said:
This! The younger generation seems to be less tolerant of the games and QOL gut punches than the past.
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derg said:
This is actually true. There’s an airline that people I know keep tabs on at SouthernJets that has an issue with new hires… just quitting. Not getting hired anywhere else, just leaving the profession.
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ONLY because they have options. Unlike mostly any other time in recent history. They can be picky. Or walk away from a major airline. Because they have something else lined up. Once that dries up - and indications are we are headed there - you’ll see the new generation get hit with reality hard in the face.

This younger generation hasn’t seen tough times.
 
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