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I'm buying the hiring rumors this time around. I've been skeptical in the past but all signs point to hiring taking place this time. I received an email, as did all 2010 hires, asking us to take a survey about our experience during that round of new hires. It was sent by the new hire coordinator and stated that they anticipate seeing new hires soon.

Where it gets cloudy for me is the numbers of actual pilots needed. No doubt over time it will be substantial but I'm not naive enough to believe that we will have a one for one retiree/new hire ratio. You can thank work rule concessions allowed during the last contract and a renewed fervor on the part of many of our pilots to sell work rules for modest pay increases. My point is that Southernjet pilots aided by DALPA are ensuring we won't be a 12,000 pilot airline any longer than we have to. Everytime I hear that we will hire "indefinitely" I laugh. Some people really are that gullible.
 
skyw82 said:
Who would have thought going to gulfstream would pay off in the end.
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There aren't many Gulfstream pilots left at Pinnacle. We all moved on years ago. To places like Delta, United, Continental, Southwest, AirTran, JetBlue, etc. Hopefully you'll still be able to sleep at night.
 
jynxyjoe said:
You'll be furloughed or working at a major by then. For some the SSP will work out great. Not for me or you but for others.
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I agree 100% with you. I'm just worried for my coworkers that are at my same relative seniority that are just sitting back and waiting for Delta HR to give them a cold call inviting them to ATL. Just to add to my original 9 year estimation, that's IF Delta hires continuously for 9 years and as Cav alluded to, I don't know the last time any Major hired that many people continuously and I highly doubt that it will happen this time. Expect the worst and hope for the best I guess.

Then again it's less competition for me...I should be selling the crap out of this thing to everyone telling them to wait it out and don't apply anywhere else, EVER!!!
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ATN_Pilot said:
There aren't many Gulfstream pilots left at Pinnacle. We all moved on years ago. To places like Delta, United, Continental, Southwest, AirTran, JetBlue, etc. Hopefully you'll still be able to sleep at night.
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Easy Petty Mc. Petterson. You won; have some dignity. Honestly though, for a matter of record, if all the Gulfstream pilots from Pinnacle are gone how do I keep running into one every time I fly with a legacy Pinnacle captain?

To everyone, if you have a shortcut you are comfortable taking, take it. It will probably work, there's nothing wrong about it. There are guys that don't take shortcuts and win too. In the course of a 30-40 year career flying airplanes around for money, and 30 of that being at the airlines, you aren't that far behind ole' Petterson here.

Quick poll: Does anyone have trouble sleeping at night because they did or didn't go to Gulfstream? If so see a shrink. If it makes you angry the people with more money than you win every time, just strap in, it's going to be a long long haul. This is America. Poor people lose.
 
crazyjaydawg said:
I agree 100% with you. I'm just worried for my coworkers that are at my same relative seniority that are just sitting back and waiting for Delta HR to give them a cold call inviting them to ATL. Just to add to my original 9 year estimation, that's IF Delta hires continuously for 9 years and as Cav alluded to, I don't know the last time any Major hired that many people continuously and I highly doubt that it will happen this time. Expect the worst and hope for the best I guess.

Then again it's less competition for me...I should be selling the crap out of this thing to everyone telling them to wait it out and don't apply anywhere else, EVER!!!
:sarcasm:
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Lol, just relax about your co-workers, they are probably just putting on a calm face. Besides, none of us are that far from the right seat of something at a mainline (in the grand scheme of things).

You can sell me, but that's because no one is beating down my door to get me in an interview. Keep calm, Chive on.
 
ERfly said:
It doesn't matter the engine. We have some IAEs on the East, too. The only difference I've found with the IAEs vs. the CFMs is that the IAEs seem to be a bit quieter. The do, however, take FOREVER to start and there's a glitch with our IAEs that won't uplink the Performance Data when the Final W/B comes in. It's not the engines. It's the wing. It has the same wing as a 320, but weights 30,000+ lbs more.
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Okay. I wasn't sure if the engine type played a role in its performance issues. I don't think Airbus is willing to go back and redesign anytime soon. I work more with our Airbus 319/320's than I do with the rest of our fleet. I guess I'm the Airbus guru when it comes to material support, configuration issues.
 
ERfly said:
It doesn't matter the engine. We have some IAEs on the East, too. The only difference I've found with the IAEs vs. the CFMs is that the IAEs seem to be a bit quieter. The do, however, take FOREVER to start and there's a glitch with our IAEs that won't uplink the Performance Data when the Final W/B comes in. It's not the engines. It's the wing. It has the same wing as a 320, but weights 30,000+ lbs more.
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That's not glitch with the wb, that is the company saving money. The atsu software on the 321 is the same as the 320 and 319. If the tow and cg are out of the range of a 319 320 it will not uplink even if it is in range fir the 321.
 
Probably been answered somewhere in the depths of another thread but can someone that is at Endeavor that is far down the list be looked at now or do they have to wait their turn?
 
DStu said:
Probably been answered somewhere in the depths of another thread but can someone that is at Endeavor that is far down the list be looked at now or do they have to wait their turn?
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I don't mean to sound like a smart ass, and I know nothing about the airlines, but if I am reading your question correctly, no you do not have to wait to apply anywhere. You may not get a call, but why would you think you cannot apply on your own?

Correct me if I'm wrong, and if I am, your agreement sucks big ole' green donkey (redacted)....just saying...
 
If you are employed by an airline with an agreement of sorts whatever this SSP entails (I left 9E before the info got out) Delta could be held to the list and if you are on it you would have to wait your turn. I was directing this at someone who actually knows something thanks.
 
DStu said:
If you are employed by an airline with an agreement of sorts whatever this SSP entails (I left 9E before the info got out) Delta could be held to the list and if you are on it you would have to wait your turn. I was directing this at someone who actually knows something thanks.
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LOL. Best of luck with that.
 
Stone Cold said:
LOL. Best of luck with that.
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Ugh. I'm just trying to see if there was language in the agreement that prevents or at the least inhibits people from leapfrogging the list if their application comes up or he/she is the CP's kid or whatever. I just know there are people there who have prior experience that could, if there isn't said language in place, get on with a major but would be screwed if they had to wait their turn.
 
DStu said:
Ugh. I'm just trying to see if there was language in the agreement that prevents or at the least inhibits people from leapfrogging the list if their application comes up or he/she is the CP's kid or whatever. I just know there are people there who have prior experience that could, if there isn't said language in place, get on with a major but would be screwed if they had to wait their turn.
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I have read that people have been told at job fairs by the manager of pilot selection that they cannot cut. The only way is if they are magically the selected. The SSP allows 3 of the 12 to be out of order.
 
ClarkGriswold said:
I have read that people have been told at job fairs by the manager of pilot selection that they cannot cut. The only way is if they are magically the selected. The SSP allows 3 of the 12 to be out of order.
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I know you don't know, but I'd LOOOOOOOVE to know which recruiter supposedly said this.
 
There is no language in the agreement that spells that process out. The MEC, however, has said time and time again that if you wish to fill out your AirlineApps without the "SSP" check box checked then you're free to do that. What that should mean is that your application will be screened as any other off the street application. Who knows what actually happens in Delta HR though.
 
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