I’m not a big fan of “Line up and wait behind landing traffic.” Especially when given over a congested frequency in broken English.
Japan Airlines flight on fire
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Screaming_Emu
Joe Conventional
@Screaming_Emu also, forgot to mention, flying a low approach to allow the tower to look at the gear is a fairly routine maneuver, I have done it several times in my career. Your chief pilot had no right to admonish your captain. Maybe if she were a he it wouldn't have happened
Yeah. It was a regional airline so dumb management was standard operating procedure.
NovemberEcho
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$10 says they were CAP at some point
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
That's a pretty normal thing at HND. I'm not sure why, but a lot of the runways are missing them for large periods of time. I think most of the ones for 34L were out the last time I was there.
greg1016
Trustworthy Source
I mean, it does happen, but generally if you check the NOTAMs and see that I would expect a pilot would be extra vigilant around runways.
NovemberEcho
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it’s been notam’d out since Dec 27
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
Sure. Japan is pretty good about limiting stupid NOTAMs, but I counted once... my Dispatch packet from Honolulu to HND had a total of 2,157 notams in it for the entire route. And other than runway closures (marked in red) nothing has any higher level of priority than anything else. It's hard to be extra vigilant around everything.
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As Flames Surged, Order Prevailed Inside a Japan Airlines Jet
In addition to a well-trained crew and an advanced plane, the safe evacuation of 367 passengers came down to a relative absence of panic.
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As much as the construction of the plane, clear instructions by the flight crew and the compliance of passengers would have been instrumental in the safe evacuation, Dr. Brown said.
“Really, the Japan Airlines crew in this case performed extremely well,” Dr. Brown said. The fact that passengers did not stop to retrieve carry-on luggage or otherwise slow down the exit was “really critical,” she added.
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Screaming_Emu
Joe Conventional
Lawman
Well-Known Member
What? How can we make good instrument pilots if we don’t do 1 min inbound holding? That’s the secret to airmanship. We wouldn’t have won at Philippine Sea without that skill set!
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Worthless filler comms, indeed.
“DAL276, on C proceeding to….”, says the same thing, and communicates clearly that you are “with them”.
scooter2525
Very well Member
You need a better mechanic if you are having that many gear problems.
killbilly
Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens
I believe it was @Screaming_Emu who said “All holding entries can be direct. It’s just a matter of bank angle.”At least we can enter holding in any way we feel like now…..
I LUV runway switching. Gives me something useful to do during the actual 90-ish second "flying" phase of flight. I get to go home thinking -at least just a little tiny bit- that today I left the office having actually done something I was actually paid to do.
