It's official: Virgin America to merge with Alaska Airlines

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Just to keep you honest, plenty of Alaska are saying the exact same things on APC. Things like expect every VA captain to lose his seat a la Air Tran, and to staple Va under Horizon....

That thread was started by someone who clearly just registered a new name in order to start a flame thread. I don't take it too seriously. I think a staple is out of the question. It's just certain folks on both sides that get too emotional and riled up and then post online about it. But so far, I haven't seen any VX guy making arrogant remarks in regards to SLI with Alaska.

 

[Hacker15e]

You could always move to CA, or a more gun friendly state

Naaah, things are just too good in liberty-loving New Jersey that people don't want to leave.

http://www.nj.com/business/index.ssf/2010/10/nj_exit_tax_has_real_estate_at.html

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

The Aviation Gods ought to have a 10 year rule. Only one divorce, merger, or furlough in 10 years.

2 mergers in five years is too much.

 

[ClarkGriswold]

The Aviation Gods ought to have a 10 year rule. Only one divorce, merger, or furlough in 10 years.

2 mergers in five years is too much.

Lets just hope Bloch isn't involved.

 

[Seggy]

Lets just hope Bloch isn't involved.

He's s fantastic arbitrator.

 

[TUCKnTRUCK]

Not me of course. No way would I ever email an airline CEO about anything. Unless it was required as being part of the MEC or something.

When the Colgan Union drive (#2?) was going on they tried to set up a message board for employees to communicate with the company.

I may have directly called the vp (forget what HM was at the time) a liar/ used car salesman directly....

They still made me a check airman after that- so it's not always career ending

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

He's s fantastic arbitrator.

Being the underdog now, I'll gladly take Bloch

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

@Seggy
@ATN_Pilot
Or anyone else who knows


Before we go through the SLI process we need a joined CBA. Does that mean both Alaska and Virgin work together to negotiate a new JCBA, or, are we basically brought over (given) the Alaska current CBA and that is to be considered our JCBA? Having a joined contract is a pretty big deal and the per-cursor paving the way for SLI negotiations.

 

[ctab5060X]

2 mergers in five years is too much.

Try two mergers involving three pilot groups both times!

 

[ctab5060X]

Lets just hope Bloch isn't involved.

What about using Nicolau...

<ducks>

 

[jtrain609]

What about using Nicolau...

<ducks>

DATE OF HIRE!!!

 

[derg]

DATE OF HIRE!!!

If I'm #400 of 1200, I expect to be NUMBA FOWER HUNNERT OUTTA TWUNNY FIVE HUNNERT AFTER THE SLI no, uhh, matter if I'm still at 33(-ish) relative percentage.

#ForeverBitter

 

[TUCKnTRUCK]

If I'm #400 of 1200, I expect to be NUMBA FOWER HUNNERT OUTTA TWUNNY FIVE HUNNERT AFTER THE SLI!

#ForeverBitter

Portable Seniority NOW! I want to go to Delta and be #400.

 

[ctab5060X]

DATE OF HIRE!!!

Try flying with those that still fight that fight...

 

[derg]

Try flying with those that still fight that fight...

Welp, a lot of pilots don't understand basic math.

Years ago during our own SLI, when the new list came out, I was sitting in the terminal, fat dumb and happy, waiting for my commuter flight.

Another pilot runs up and without even introducing himself asks "what's your number?"

Hell if I know, hell, I don't even know what it is right now because it's all relative anyway.

Anyway, long story short we had like 8000 pilots (or something like that, I can't remember) and the other carrier had like 5000 pilots. He was a reserve 757 FO at something in the mid 4000's and now would be almost 11,000 on the new list so basically, still at 90%, still a reserve 757 FO on the big list.

But he fully expected to be in the mid-4000's because, at the end of the day, that was HIS number.

That's basically, at the time a 737 captain. "Well, that's my number"

 

[MikeD]

National list

 

[Baronman]

National list

It is funny how we're all in one Union till a merger....Then it's "You had no career expectations! " and "My airline has been around since Wilbur Wright!"
That's the brotherhood.

 

[MikeD]

It is funny how we're all in one Union till a merger....Then it's "You had no career expectations! " and "My airline has been around since Wilbur Wright!"
That's the brotherhood.

Interesting irony indeed .

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Welp, a lot of pilots don't understand basic math.

Years ago during our own SLI, when the new list came out, I was sitting in the terminal, fat dumb and happy, waiting for my commuter flight.

Another pilot runs up and without even introducing himself asks "what's your number?"

Hell if I know, hell, I don't even know what it is right now because it's all relative anyway.

Anyway, long story short we had like 8000 pilots (or something like that, I can't remember) and the other carrier had like 5000 pilots. He was a reserve 757 FO at something in the mid 4000's and now would be almost 11,000 on the new list so basically, still at 90%, still a reserve 757 FO on the big list.

But he fully expected to be in the mid-4000's because, at the end of the day, that was HIS number.

That's basically, at the time a 737 captain. "Well, that's my number"

"So what's in a number, what's in a number? You know what, maybe nothing is in a number. Maybe a number is just a number."

Enjoy all BMW fans, and thank John Woo:

 

[uncreative]

That was a legit series of shorts from BMW. I have the original DVD. That is all.