ICT - C500 down

[Max Power]

The Citation is a robust airplane, but these are getting to be really old planes now, especially the Citation I. One of the last planes I flew for my old 135 was a Citation II, about a 1982 vintage. About 9000 hours total time. The last flight I did was to a Citation service center for a major check. Last I heard, they had found corrosion that to fix, would have been about $350,000.

That's about what the airframe is worth, including the top shelf booze the owner stocked but minus the engines. Did I mention it had a fuel "seep" for the past 3 months before it went? Jet A and Prist aren't at all corrosive...

I feel kind of bad for the people on board. Last I looked, no deity is certified A&P, so put your faith in a real one. OK, that's stretching it, but any "church" that can charter let alone operate even a CE-500 I feel isn't really doing Gods work.

 

[Pilot Fighter]

Same deal with Angley's 747SP that Castle Aviation runs out of CAK. For how much it sits around up there I'd figure flying commercial (or even a NetJets account) would be cheaper.

At least that crazy old bastard uses it for some humanitarian work.

I used to watch him as a kid. "Let them deaf spirits come out!!! Bay-bee, Bay-bee, Ahhhh-men, Ahhhh-men."

 

[Autothrust Blue]

A stall, neg G, with spin can snap off a wing. Also don't think heat on the tiles caused the Columbia destruction!

TFOA, causing a hole in said tiles, etc.

 

[Boris Badenov]

When I saw only one Px exit Trinity Broadcasting's bad boy pictured below on the ramp at SNA, the first word I uttered was, "Jesus!"
And I was correct

No one said the Second Coming had to be jumping out from behind a rock in tevas and a housecoat, did they?

 

[Boris Badenov]

I used to watch him as a kid. "Let them deaf spirits come out!!! Bay-bee, Bay-bee, Ahhhh-men, Ahhhh-men."

*jumps up, waves hands around, runs around a bit, speaks in tongues, faints*

Hal-eh-LOO-yah!

 

[Boris Badenov]

A little paint and leather and good as new, right?

Only if it's a Lear 24. My stiffie would overwhelm what little good sense I've ever been accused of having.

 

[gne in prog]

Passenger manifest aside, breaking up in flight would be a horrible way to go.

 

[mikecweb]

The Citation is a robust airplane, but these are getting to be really old planes now, especially the Citation I. One of the last planes I flew for my old 135 was a Citation II, about a 1982 vintage. About 9000 hours total time. The last flight I did was to a Citation service center for a major check. Last I heard, they had found corrosion that to fix, would have been about $350,000.

That's about what the airframe is worth, including the top shelf booze the owner stocked but minus the engines. Did I mention it had a fuel "seep" for the past 3 months before it went? Jet A and Prist aren't at all corrosive...

I feel kind of bad for the people on board. Last I looked, no deity is certified A&P, so put your faith in a real one. OK, that's stretching it, but any "church" that can charter let alone operate even a CE-500 I feel isn't really doing Gods work.

The last Lear 35 I flew about 5 years ago had 28k hours and was 1972 vintage.

 

[Roger Roger]

Did I mention it had a fuel "seep" for the past 3 months before it went? Jet A and Prist aren't at all corrosive...

This reads like sarcasm, but if it is, you're wrong. Jet A is not remotely corrosive. Don't know about prist but I would suspect its not either.

 

[Inverted]

Prist is nasty crap.

 

[Pilot Fighter]

This reads like sarcasm, but if it is, you're wrong. Jet A is not remotely corrosive. Don't know about prist but I would suspect its not either.

Diluted in fuel, its corrosive properties are probably trivial. At full strength, it can damage aluminum pretty quickly.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Prist is nasty crap.

yes it is.

 

[Cessna414JJB]

Are there any prelim findings about the cause or is this all still second hand flea market estimation gone preschool?

 

[queeno]

well hell iam gonna speculate......RUNAWAY TRIM RUNAWAY TRIM RUNAWAY TRIM...................................ELECTRIC TRIM IS THE DEVILLLLLLL!!!!

 

[Avalon781ML]

What about an un-commanded TR deployment with the emergency stow being inop?

 

[queeno]

don't think it had TRs, at least the picture I saw that was suppose to be the A/C didn't have TRs

 

[NickH]

I'm sticking with hijacking/murder/suicide....

 

[chrisreedrules]

bomb maybe?

 

[Inverted]

What about an un-commanded TR deployment with the emergency stow being inop?

Go to idle or shut it down, it doesn't rip a wing off...

 

[dustoff17]

What about an un-commanded TR deployment with the emergency stow being inop?

Go to idle or shut it down, it doesn't rip a wing off...

Have you ever been flying and get an extended TR or seen a video of this? It is one crazy, instant roll ride! Mute point here as the plane wasn't equipped.
Reg is N610ED. FlightAware shows flight track and weather. I was in NW AR this same day and picked up a lot of ice in the descent [not stating it's a factor here]

The drink I'm putting out on the table supports questionable maintenance on the wing itself.