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Which airlines is the best to fly with?

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pierre said:
Curious why you went to ATP and appeared to have done everything except the easiest instrucotr checkride in their program.
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ran out of money in the end :[ They make you train for CFII in the Seminole, so double the cost for that
 
RobG said:
Will ATP give you an instructor job if you get your CFII with them?
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They do guarantee a CFI position after you finish with everything, but the catch is that you have to work in Florida at their headquarters for a couple of months, then they send you off to a random location. I just couldnt move, or be away from my house for that long. Plus, my previous instructors told me they hated working for ATP...
 
lisa dang said:
They do guarantee a CFI position after you finish with everything, but the catch is that you have to work in Florida at their headquarters for a couple of months, then they send you off to a random location. I just couldnt move, or be away from my house for that long. Plus, my previous instructors told me they hated working for ATP...
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How are you going to be a pilot being away from home all the time?
 
Well, I know it sounds tough but welcome to aviation. I assume you want to advance you career (quickly). ATP will give you students in the seminole. You already have 98% of the work done to get the job. If you truly "need hours, want a job, need to fly" you should be taking you CFII ride with ATP now.
 
Cessnaflyer said:
How are you going to be a pilot being away from home all the time?
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RobG said:
Well, I know it sounds tough but welcome to aviation. I assume you want to advance you career (quickly). ATP will give you students in the seminole. You already have 98% of the work done to get the job. If you truly "need hours, want a job, need to fly" you should be taking you CFII ride with ATP now.
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There is no need to advance quickly for me now, i just need to get a job (preferably involved with flying) so i can get money to pay for the rest of my ratings and certificates i want to get accomplished.
 
Cessnaflyer said:
How are you going to be a pilot being away from home all the time?
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I am not asking to be a professional pilot at the moment. I just need a job (preferably involved with flying). I just wanted to know if there are CFI openings in the OC. Yes, I have already visited most and applied to most, but no one is hiring.
 
lisa dang said:
I am not asking to be a professional pilot at the moment. I just need a job (preferably involved with flying). I just wanted to know if there are CFI openings in the OC. Yes, I have already visited most and applied to most, but no one is hiring.
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Might want to take the bullet and pay your dues with ATP. It won't take long and you'll be qualified to move onto the airlines or charter flying. You'll meet a lot of people as well. It's pretty difficult getting the multi time any other way. I started flying 10 years ago and just got to 1700TT and 500MEL. Of course most of that 10 years I was not taking the first available job or trying to build time over all else.
 
brian434 said:
Might want to take the bullet and pay your dues with ATP. It won't take long and you'll be qualified to move onto the airlines or charter flying. You'll meet a lot of people as well. It's pretty difficult getting the multi time any other way. I started flying 10 years ago and just got to 1700TT and 500MEL. Of course most of that 10 years I was not taking the first available job or trying to build time over all else.
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I dont have money to pay my dues :[ and don't i have to get an ATP in order to fly for airlines? i am not 23 years old yet...and i have applied for some charter flying companies, but they required and average of 700+TT
 
lisa dang said:
I dont have money to pay my dues :[ and don't i have to get an ATP in order to fly for airlines? i am not 23 years old yet...and i have applied for some charter flying companies, but they required and average of 700+TT
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1. Get a non-aviation job
2. Make more money
3. Get ratings
4. ?
5. Instruct
6. Coveted airline job
7. Stand in line at the welfare counter
 
lisa dang said:
I dont have money to pay my dues :[ and don't i have to get an ATP in order to fly for airlines? i am not 23 years old yet...and i have applied for some charter flying companies, but they required and average of 700+TT
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There are jobs out there for 250 hour pilots. They are very low paying and not in a location you are currently in. Limit yourself to living in SoCal and you drastically limit your market.
 
lisa dang said:
I dont have money to pay my dues :[ and don't i have to get an ATP in order to fly for airlines? i am not 23 years old yet...and i have applied for some charter flying companies, but they required and average of 700+TT
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One thing about aviation(and a just having a job at all right now) is that there's a good chance you'll have to move. I've been flying professionally for 2.5 years and have moved 4 times now. IL, MO, IL(kind of), OR, UT.
 
lisa dang said:
I dont have money to pay my dues :[ and don't i have to get an ATP in order to fly for airlines? i am not 23 years old yet...and i have applied for some charter flying companies, but they required and average of 700+TT
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How much money are we talking about here? I mean, CFII add on? That's maybe the cheapest rating you will ever do. Not to mention easy. And you get a flying, paying, career progressing job out of it. You will have 700tt+ before you know it.

Beg, borrow or steal to get the money...you have a job waiting on you.
 
Cessnaflyer said:
I got hired to fly a part 91 King Air B200 with 12 multi time. It can be done.
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And 250TT, in the past three years? I'm cmel with something like 400tt/60me .. but I don't consider myself remotely employable ... I'm not even looking. I'm trying to get my CFI. I just haven't seen anything out there at all that even suggests the possibility of finding something like that.

Mostly just a point for discussion, since I want my CFI anyway. I'm just wondering if your experience is current, or if perhaps you had high TT that made up for low ME. When I got my private back in 97, airline jobs had very high minima (iirc), but at the same time, there were lots of jobs out there for low-time pilots.

I could be misremembering, since I was 17 and that was a fairly long time ago. ^.^

-Fox
 
Acrofox said:
I've been looking for years, just casually. I haven't really seen any. Is there something I'm missing?

~Fox
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Lots of CFI gigs. Other than teaching, given you have the required tailwheel time, you could tow rags. Or in the right market, 250 is more than enough to get in my gig. Granted, it sucks, but it's a flying job that pays roughly regional CA pay at 250TT.
 
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