Furlough Estimates

Right now, at Alaskaair.com, it says this:

  • Through July 31, 2020, middle seats are blocked and flights will be capped at 65% capacity to allow for extra space between guests not traveling together.

I'll be surprised if they don't change their mind before then.
 
I know Delta is till the end of September and I thought a few more jumped on board to the end of Sept?

Convenient date :confused:
 
DE727UPS said:
Right now, at Alaskaair.com, it says this:

  • Through July 31, 2020, middle seats are blocked and flights will be capped at 65% capacity to allow for extra space between guests not traveling together.

I'll be surprised if they don't change their mind before then.
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Well further down on this page they say:

There can be limited occasions where extra space cannot be guaranteed due to unforeseen changes such as reaccommodating guests from a previously canceled flight.
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Maybe they are really stretching the definition of "unforeseen"

My previously mentioned flight had 80+% load and this past weekend SNA-SEA-SNA had 100+ of 150 booked (66+% load).

Kinda feeling like all airlines are swinging it the same way right now, saying one thing and filling it up if they can...
 
@Nark

Here’s some more info from a union email:



  • Military Leave Waiver is revised to encompass May 1, 2020 through December 31, 2021. Any military leave taken within this timeframe will not count toward the five-year military leave limit for the entirety of a pilot's career at Alaska Airlines.
 
Sculprit said:
I guess my brain thought to say that over Texas.
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QXDX said:
This morning I discovered that a tracing API file was uploaded to my phone, courtesy of the Google. In a nutshell it is supposed to alert you when you have been in the vicinity of someone who has tested positive for COVID-19. Things like that are what is contributing to and building the mass hysteria surrounding COVID-19. It's a virus that something like 99% of people recover from, without hospitalization. Yet the general perception seems to be if you don't stay home, wear a mask, and socially distance, you're marked for death. This perception is what is causing people to, among other things not travel.

There is so much confusing, inaccurate and (in some cases, deliberately) misleading information out there that it is causing would be travelers to literally cower in fear. May I respectfully suggest that, instead of spending 99 pages talking about who is going to get furloughed and when, it might be more productive to encourage our respective professional groups to advocate for air travel. They have the resources and manpower to cut through the noise and get the real information out there.
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Let's forget about both of our levels of education in infectious diseases and epidemiology and cut to a self-centered chase. If taking people's temperatures, wearing masks, and having beaucoup hand sanitizer available in the airport would make travelers feel safe, thereby saving even one single job at one airline (not just pilots jobs, mind you), why on Earth would we encourage people to do anything other than happily and proudly wear masks? Why would you encourage people to "get the real information" if masking up makes people feel confident enough to fly?
 
roundout said:
Let's forget about both of our levels of education in infectious diseases and epidemiology and cut to a self-centered chase. If taking people's temperatures, wearing masks, and having beaucoup hand sanitizer available in the airport would make travelers feel safe, thereby saving even one single job at one airline (not just pilots jobs, mind you), why on Earth would we encourage people to do anything other than happily and proudly wear masks? Why would you encourage people to "get the real information" if masking up makes people feel confident enough to fly?
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Because it’s mildly uncomfortable a little bit.
 
roundout said:
Let's forget about both of our levels of education in infectious diseases and epidemiology and cut to a self-centered chase. If taking people's temperatures, wearing masks, and having beaucoup hand sanitizer available in the airport would make travelers feel safe, thereby saving even one single job at one airline (not just pilots jobs, mind you), why on Earth would we encourage people to do anything other than happily and proudly wear masks? Why would you encourage people to "get the real information" if masking up makes people feel confident enough to fly?
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You're making an assumption that I don't think can be safely made. You assume that more people would travel if they "felt safe." I'm not sure that this is correct. I'm not traveling until the mask requirement gets lifted, because I can't feel comfortable wearing a mask for hours at a time. I know I'm not alone in that. It is entirely a matter of guesswork right now as to which will result in more people deferring travel.
 
SlumTodd_Millionaire said:
You're making an assumption that I don't think can be safely made. You assume that more people would travel if they "felt safe." I'm not sure that this is correct. I'm not traveling until the mask requirement gets lifted, because I can't feel comfortable wearing a mask for hours at a time. I know I'm not alone in that. It is entirely a matter of guesswork right now as to which will result in more people deferring travel.
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Note the word "if" in what I wrote. I don't get to choose what makes people comfortable or uncomfortable. All I'm saying is that if the efforts we're undertaking now (heavy, frequent cleaning, employees wearing masks, temperature checks, etc.) help even a little bit, we should be 100% behind the efforts.
 
roundout said:
Let's forget about both of our levels of education in infectious diseases and epidemiology and cut to a self-centered chase. If taking people's temperatures, wearing masks, and having beaucoup hand sanitizer available in the airport would make travelers feel safe, thereby saving even one single job at one airline (not just pilots jobs, mind you), why on Earth would we encourage people to do anything other than happily and proudly wear masks? Why would you encourage people to "get the real information" if masking up makes people feel confident enough to fly?
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Cuz it infringes upon mah rights!!!
 
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