Furlough Estimates

I'm disliking this crap sandwich as much as everyone else. Actually taking vacation time right now to keep my sanity -- I would much rather be crunching numbers on how to optimize click through profits on click bait ads like normal times.

Are you a Digital Marketing guy? I always thought that was pretty interesting, and if I end up getting furloughed it's one of the paths I'd like to explore.
 
Show me a single person from Ukraine that says the Holodomor was good for the people. Even with the propaganda whitwashed history there.
Eh... the loudest mouths are from the parts of the country that was Poland back the then and were not even f......g remotely affected by it.
It was an unfortunate event that was a combination of draught, mismanagement and crap timing in switching from individualized to collective farming. It spanned a significant area of what is now Ukraine, Russia and Kazakhstan, killing loads everywhere.
But only a few f....tards (again, mostly from the unaffected western parts) are dancing on it to gain political points. Disgusting, from beginning to the end.
 
Aren't you also paddling in that same boat?

No. I’m advocating for those who are not privileged.

So @SlumTodd_Millionaire couldn't help himself and reacted to my post with a haha. I guess he knows better, so..
Todd, care to share with the class whatever meaningful opinion you might have on the subject? Being the well-rounded (no offense) individual that you are?

No thanks. I don‘t engage in debate with Russian bots.
 
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Eh... the loudest mouths are from the parts of the country that was Poland back the then and were not even f......g remotely affected by it.
It was an unfortunate event that was a combination of draught, mismanagement and crap timing in switching from individualized to collective farming. It spanned a significant area of what is now Ukraine, Russia and Kazakhstan, killing loads everywhere.
But only a few f....tards (again, mostly from the unaffected western parts) are dancing on it to gain political points. Disgusting, from beginning to the end.
Like he was saying about "whitewashed history".

To @drunkenbeagle and @SlumTodd_Millionaire 's points though...

Let's not forget this: A temporary stay at home order to protect the population is not even close to the reality of the Great Starvation. And for that matter, it's not even close to what America's own 1930's Great Depression was.

That said, they do - but to vastly different degrees - share some semblance of similarity.

From the Great Starvation -

Survival was a moral as well as a physical struggle. A woman doctor wrote to a friend in June 1933 that she had not yet become a cannibal, but was "not sure that I shall not be one by the time my letter reaches you." The good people died first. Those who refused to steal or to prostitute themselves died. Those who gave food to others died. Those who refused to eat corpses died. Those who refused to kill their fellow man died. Parents who resisted cannibalism died before their children did.

Doing the right thing is almost always a moral struggle. (I mean, that snippet above completely comports with @SlumTodd_Millionaire 's admonition some weeks ago against providing charity.) Often, to some degree or another, it can be a physical struggle.

But let's be real clear. The Great Starvation? That was existential. Us? Here? Now? We're just all of sudden becoming "warriors of freedom" (freedom from responsibility and sense of decency) because we can't go out to the freaking pub.

I don't mean to be an ass, but people these days really, really need to get some perspective with regard to what real suffering actually is.
 
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Like he was saying about "whitewashed history".

To @drunkenbeagle and @SlumTodd_Millionaire 's points though...

Let's not forget this: A temporary stay at home order to protect the population is not even close to the reality of the Great Starvation. And for that matter, it's not even close to what America's own 1930's Great Depression was.

That said, they do - but to vastly different degrees - share some semblance of similarity.

From the Great Starvation -

Survival was a moral as well as a physical struggle. A woman doctor wrote to a friend in June 1933 that she had not yet become a cannibal, but was "not sure that I shall not be one by the time my letter reaches you." The good people died first. Those who refused to steal or to prostitute themselves died. Those who gave food to others died. Those who refused to eat corpses died. Those who refused to kill their fellow man died. Parents who resisted cannibalism died before their children did.

Doing the right thing is almost always a moral struggle. (I mean, that snippet above completely comports with @SlumTodd_Millionaire 's admonition some weeks ago against providing charity.) Often, to some degree or another, it can be a physical struggle.

But let's be real clear. The Great Starvation? That was existential. Us? Here? Now? We're just all of sudden becoming "warriors of freedom" (freedom from responsibility and sense of decency) because we can't go out to the freaking pub.

I don't mean to be an ass, but people these days really, really need to get some perspective with regard to what real suffering actually is.
Not saying the economic effects are going to be fun, but it’s really showing how many people haven’t had to deal with actual hardships or sacrifices in a long time here. Open Fuddruckers!
 
If the State forces someone to stay home and not work, and thus, not earn a paycheck.....by State orders; should those same people have to pay any local/State/Federal taxes for the time when they weren’t allowed to earn an income from their job?
Interesting
 
Not saying anything.
Just for discussion
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That's NOT ONLY COVID, either.

That's the general response of the Executive branch these days.

CALLING ALL SOCIOPATHIC AUTOCRATS and WANNA-BE DICTATORS!!!

KILL the MESSENGERS.

KILL the TRUTH.

EXTORT and BLACKMAIL.

EXACT COMPLIANCE with THE PARTY LIE.

DODGE. PARRY. SPIN.

KILL the OPPOSITION.

Rinse and repeat.

KILL the OPPOSITION.

Rinse and repeat.

Damn, I really, really wish some of you all would go learn about rise of Hitler. Never forget, kids... Hitler was elected first. He only started rewriting the constitution and killing the opposition later.
 
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