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I thought we aired out BEEF Supreme drama already and moved on?

We are all a dysfunctional family here but you know what every new year we are back at the table bickering at one another or laughing our ass off. Let's just move on.
 
Hi everyone. AA pilot here that's part of the 2500 that received a WARN notice. APA is currently engaged with management (allegedly) to find ways to mitigate or avoid furloughs. I was wondering how things are going at United and Delta? Any word on if Furloughs will be avoided or reduced over there?

Not really so great at UA. We have 2250 WARN to start, and last snapshot had 250 or so people taking the early out, and a lot of them were 62 so the company has the right to reject the 62 year olds but with so few takers, hopefully they won't. Still, only 1100 were eligible. So.... Yeah. That's where we're at.
 
Not really so great at UA. We have 2250 WARN to start, and last snapshot had 250 or so people taking the early out, and a lot of them were 62 so the company has the right to reject the 62 year olds but with so few takers, hopefully they won't. Still, only 1100 were eligible. So.... Yeah. That's where we're at.
How much is 1100 in terms of % on the seniority list
 
You’ll be “complicit,” too, then. You’ll see. The CRM game isn’t as easy as you think it is. Keeping the peace in a six foot cubed tiny room at 36,000 ft for days on end when you’re not the person in charge, and the guy who is is a little...different is definitely an art form.

I start about asking about BBQ. It tells me how the trip will go.


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First off - if one does use the Texas Crutch it better be butcher paper and not foil! Don’t nobody want no ruined bark! Honestly sometimes I don’t wrap and sometimes I do - depends on if I’m in a rush or if I’m around during the stall. I never wrap pork butts, however.

I tend to agree. I use butcher paper every once in a while. But only because I don't have a true smoker. I have a BGE. Hot and fast brisket isn't acceptable at all. You won't be getting the proper amount of smoke into the meat. If you don't have the time to cook a brisket the proper way, just stick to ribs.
 
I tend to agree. I use butcher paper every once in a while. But only because I don't have a true smoker. I have a BGE. Hot and fast brisket isn't acceptable at all. You won't be getting the proper amount of smoke into the meat. If you don't have the time to cook a brisket the proper way, just stick to ribs.
I’ve done plenty a good briskets on my BGE. Think mine is a Large.... some people swear by hot and fast - I don’t have the juevos to try. I will one day maybe. I just bought 7 briskets the other day ago for my deep freezer in Dallas it was $1.49lb.
 
I’ve done plenty a good briskets on my BGE. Think mine is a Large.... some people swear by hot and fast - I don’t have the juevos to try. I will one day maybe. I just bought 7 briskets the other day ago for my deep freezer in Dallas it was $1.49lb.

That's a darn good price for brisket!
 
That's a darn good price for brisket!
It’s been much more during this whole virus crap. Lots of bbq joints raised their prices as well and have signs saying the price increases were due to a temporary brisket shortage / price increase.
 
Not to derail your question, but when did you receive your notice? I'm in the 2500 and I have not received any notice yet.
@LoFi

Hey Compadres... if you’re on the bookface, they created a group for us lowly outcasts. Search for “Below Both Lines” (because we’re post merger hires below the integration line, and now below the water line on WARN letters.) Been a decent source of info.

FWIW I received my WARN letter last Friday, on my 3 year anniversary date with the company. LAX based, live in Colorado.
 
I’ve done plenty a good briskets on my BGE. Think mine is a Large.... some people swear by hot and fast - I don’t have the juevos to try. I will one day maybe. I just bought 7 briskets the other day ago for my deep freezer in Dallas it was $1.49lb.

HEB had a Wagyu brisket the other day. It was not $1.49 a pound but looked incredible.

I was tempted to try it but my BGE needs the gasket replaced before I try another long cook, I can’t easily keep it below 280 because of the weak seal.
 
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I’ve done ribs, chicken, pork shoulder. All have come out pretty good. I have a beginner smoker that was a Christmas gift a few years back. I have had the two best briskets ever on overnights in TX. So I want to try brisket but I hear horror stories about how tough it’s to get it right.
 
I’ve done ribs, chicken, pork shoulder. All have come out pretty good. I have a beginner smoker that was a Christmas gift a few years back. I have had the two best briskets ever on overnights in TX. So I want to try brisket but I hear horror stories about how tough it’s to get it right.
Depends on your heat control. My stick burner puts great crust on, i use hickory so i get great smoke and my process is pretty solid for keeping temps constant, but its about constant 250 not 225. Destroys the beef, and im convinced theres a hotspot somewhere im not accounting for. Your gonna blow 50 or more bucks every time you f it up.

Ribs and butts? Come out perfect, toast of the neighborhood. For my little smoker i got a long way to go before i can get a brisket smoked reliably.
 
HEB had a Wagyu brisket the other day. It was not $1.49 a pound but looked incredible.

I was tempted to try it but my BGE needs the gasket replaced before I try another long cook, I can’t easily keep it below 280 because of the weak seal.
I replaced mine with a much higher quality and higher temp gasket -I burned the heck out of my original one while doing pizzas over 700 degrees. I now have a thick braided rope looking one. Scraped the old one off with a putty knife then used my drill with a wire brush attachment to get it nice and clean before I put the new one on. It works way better.
 
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