elmetal
Ain't nobody got time for that
We're flying commercial airliners with people's lives in the back. Backing it up with an ILS is just an extra margin of safety.
z987k
Well-Known Member
It's really crappy technique not to put some kind of course guidance in, every single approach, every single time. Pilots with craptons more experience than me manage to land on the wrong runway because they either don't or don't pay attention. There comes a time when you just fly the airplane, but there's things you can do to safegaurd against accidents when you're on hour 14 day 14.
Like how about you're tired as crap, it's night, you're going into Eek vis is marginal and the old runway is still there and that 300 something foot tower they have is right next to it. You punch in the GPS approach for lateral guidance just because even though you know exactly where you are and know exactly what you're doing since you've done this 100 times before, that magic box confirms it. And you don't hit the tower by accident.
Or have you seriously never been on an approach that is reporting 6 miles at the IAF(another visual) but when you get to the MAP it's 1/2 and blowing snow? Good thing we went ahead and shot the approach anyways.
Or I don't know, try to go VFR from Bethel to St Mary's in an IFR and FIKI airplane when there's a perfectly good LOC and GPS approaches to get you in?
This is why Alaska has commercial airplane crashes. Attitude of the pilots. I have no time for it.
@ppragman
Mark815
Well-Known Member
It's scary that there's pilots with this attitude out there who are flying the paying public.
As mentioned above, it doesn't matter if it's clear and a million, having a backup is not only a good idea, it's also required by SOP for many operators. When professional pilots working for companies like SouthWest, Boeing and even the military (C17 landing at the wrong airport down in FL a couple years ago) can screw it up so badly, the "it can't happen to me" mindset really should go out the window.
z987k
Well-Known Member
Apparently he's a troll. However, I agree. It's crazy that people like this are allowed to fly.
jynxyjoe
Queso King
We apologize for having a book that requires and culture that encourages you to stow the ego and dial up some backup.
elmetal
Ain't nobody got time for that
Sorry, we should all bow down to your skills.
jynxyjoe
Queso King
Hey, a loaded statement. Have you researched why they want us to manage that stuff? I know this is shocking, but 6-7k hours in I can switch off the automation and fly it in, but I try to keep on top the automation like I'm paid to. I turn on the ILS during a hand flown day visual too.
elmetal
Ain't nobody got time for that
jynxyjoe
Queso King
I like the
LOL. Yeah, we pretty much do the safest thing even though there are a few negatives. Less Chuck Yeager, more airplanes in one piece. I spent 1k hours hand flying a 1900 in hard IMC in the Northeast, I absolutely am a worse pilot than I was, but I'm sure it's more comfortable for the passengers and I know it allows both crew members to manage instead of one guy managing and the other guy focusing 40-80% of their brain power on flying (at least that's what I was told in college when we discussed automation). Holy run on sentence Batman!
jynxyjoe
Queso King
Clearly you've got it all figured out. Thanks for getting us straight on that.
*checks Jepp chart for the ILS freq*
jynxyjoe
Queso King
speed mode? nav? what's that?No problem..... Positive rate....gear up...speed mode...nav....autopilot on...scratch the balls looking out the window