Earhart searches find no obvious signs of her plane

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http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/24/earhart-searches-find-no-obvious-signs-of-her-plane/?hpt=hp_t3

A team of searchers looking for proof that Amelia Earhart crashed on a remote Pacific atoll 75 years ago were on their way back to Hawaii Tuesday without any concrete evidence to prove the aviation pioneer crashed on Nikumaroro.
"Big pieces of airplane wreckage were not immediately apparent," the group behind the search, The International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery, said on its website.
"As is usually the case with field work, we’re coming home with more questions than answers. We are, of course, disappointed that we did not make a dramatic and conclusive discovery, but we are undaunted in our commitment to keep searching out and assembling the pieces of the Earhart puzzle," the website said.
The TIGHAR group left Honolulu on July 3 on its ninth effort to search for wreckage of the Lockheed Electra that Earhart and her navigator, Fred Noonan, were flying when they disappeared on an around-the-world flight in 1937.
The group theorizes that Earhart and Noonan landed on Nikumaroro Island - then called Gardner’s Island - after failing to find a different South Pacific island they were set to land on. The pair is believed to have landed safely and called for help using the Electra’s radio. And in a twist of fate, the plane was swept out to sea, washing away Earhart and Noonan’s only source of communication. U.S. Navy search planes flew over the island, but not seeing the Electra, passed it by and continued the search elsewhere.
Earlier this year, the group said it had come upon new evidence placing Earhart on Nikumaroro.
In March it said new analysis of a photo taken three months after Earhart and Noonan were lost showed what might have been the landing gear of Electra on a Nikumaroro reef. And in June, it said a new study suggests that dozens of radio signals once dismissed were actually transmissions from Earhart’s plane.
The searchers said Monday that five days of underwater searches around Nikumaroro had not produced any obvious signs of Earhart's Electra.
"No big shiny silver airplane, obvious to all, but the data on the various storage devices may hold treasures," the group's blog said.
But much analysis remains to be done, they said.
"We have volumes of sonar data and many hours of high-definition video to review and analyze before we will know whether we found it," the group said on its website. "Due to the limitations of the technology, we were only able to see standard-definition video images during actual search operations. Now that we're examining the recorded high-definition video, we’re already seeing objects we want our forensic imaging specialist, Jeff Glickman, to look at. We’ll also be getting expert second opinions on our best sonar targets."
Meanwhile, there was once distinct sighting of Earhart on Tuesday - on Google.
The search engine saluted Earhart on what would have been her 115th birthday with a doodle of her standing alongside a plane with Google emblazoned on the underside of the wing.
 
I will again express my dismay that people are searching for Earhart. I'm just not sure why they do - are they thinking that she somehow survived and they will find her, all of 115 years of age having lived the last 75 years on indigenous berry's and seaweed? Are they hoping to find some new and remarkable thing when the NTSB re-assembles what's left of the Lockheed Model 10 - you know, to keep all of the current Electra operators safe? Are they hoping to "heal" or bring "closure" to our 75 year long national nightmare of having a woman miss a tiny island and run out of gas? I just don't see the point with this - I understand going after Spanish Galleons on the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico laden with gold - but my best guess is that the Electra wasn't carrying bulk gold on the around the world flight.
 
Waco, I think they do it because it's their personal "mountain". I have some weird goals too, but none that will be published or have people talking about. It's just their thing that they look forward too. That's my guess, unless they are being paid on a professional basis by some entity.
 
Gee, who would have ever predicted that. :rolleyes:

The only thing different about this trip is that TIGHAR somehow convinced Secretary Clinton that they were legitimate, which prompted all of the press and public interest for this excursion.

Other than that, it was just another TIGHAR treasure hunt like every other.
 
Gee, who would have ever predicted that. :rolleyes:

The only thing different about this trip is that TIGHAR somehow convinced Secretary Clinton that they were legitimate, which prompted all of the press and public interest for this excursion.

Other than that, it was just another TIGHAR treasure hunt like every other.

But what "treasure" is there to be had? Perhaps I underestimate the financial value of finding skeletal remains and old Lockheed parts.
 
But what "treasure" is there to be had? Perhaps I underestimate the financial value of finding skeletal remains and old Lockheed parts.

No, you're totally correct. I used the term sarcastically. TIGHAR has basically been Gillespie's own personal "Indiana Jones" outfit for several decades, and serves to fill his desire for adventure and fame, rather than legitimate discovery of history.

It's not thought of well in legitimate warbird preservation circles.
 
But what "treasure" is there to be had? Perhaps I underestimate the financial value of finding skeletal remains and old Lockheed parts.

What's the point in climbing Everest? Or any mountain? Why run a marathon, when you know there's no chance you'll win? Why build something with LEGOs?

While I personally think it's better that Earhart remains lost (it's a better story), but there are things in life that you do for no other reason than "Because."
 
I just dont really care and I'm puzzled by how she's held such a prominent position in history. I mean I'm glad she pioneered the role of women in aviation, that's great... but other than that she was a poor pilot who reportedly broke many airplanes and finally got lost and died attempting to do something other people had already done over a decade prior.
 
Kind of off topic, but I think it is pretty cool how google has their homepage changed in her memory today.

As for people searching for her, I don't know if it is worth the countless years of work that people have put in trying to find the remains of her airplane/ traces of where she went down. No doubt was she famous for her place in female aviation history, but I don't think they are going to have much luck at this point.
 
Gee, who would have ever predicted that. :rolleyes:

The only thing different about this trip is that TIGHAR somehow convinced Secretary Clinton that they were legitimate, which prompted all of the press and public interest for this excursion.

Other than that, it was just another TIGHAR treasure hunt like every other.


I don't know about you but I'm shocked :p
 
75 years later, the mystery of Amelia Earhart solved?

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/19/75-years-later-the-mystery-of-amelia-earhart-solved/?hpt=hp_t2

Debris discovered in the depths of the South Pacific may be remnants of vanished aviator Amelia Earhart’s plane.
“A review of high-definition underwater video footage taken during the recently-completed Niku VII expedition has revealed a scattering of man-made objects on the reef slope off the west end of Nikumaroro,” The International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery reported on its website.
The question researchers are now asking: Do these new images reveal parts of the same plane captured in a 1937 photo of Nikumaroro.

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Discovery News reports that the 1937 photo of the island's western shoreline was taken three months after Earhart and her navigator, Fred Noonan, disappeared. The shot by British Colonial Service officer Eric R. Bevington, “revealed an apparent man-made protruding object on the left side of the frame.” Forensic analysis of the image “found the mysterious object consistent with the shape and dimension of the upside-down landing gear of Earhart's plane.”
"The Bevington photo shows what appears to be four components of the plane: a strut, a wheel, a wom gear and a fender. In the debris field there appears to be the fender, possibly the wheel and possibly some portions of the strut," TIGHAR forensic imaging specialist Jeff Glickman told Discovery News.
TIGHAR launched the expedition last month, working on a theory that Earhart and Noonan became stranded and ultimately met their deaths on Nikumaroro Island after their Lockheed Electra plane was swept out to sea 75 years ago.
The group’s ninth expedition to the island kicked off with a chorus of excitement and criticism around the Internet. Researchers ultimately returned to the U.S. admitting they had found no obvious signs of the plane.
But new analysis of an underwater debris field may prove the researchers found exactly what they were looking for.
"Early media reports rushed to judgment in saying that the expedition didn't find anything," Ric Gillespie, TIGHAR executive director, told Discovery News. "We had, of course, hoped to see large pieces of aircraft wreckage but as soon as we saw the severe underwater environment at Nikumaroro we knew that we would be looking for debris from an airplane that had been torn to pieces 75 years ago."
Glickman told Discovery News the group has reviewed less than 30% of the high-definition underwater video taken on the recent expedition, which launched July 12 and concluded on July 24.
TIGHAR theorizes that Earhart and Noonan landed on Nikumaroro Island then called Gardner’s Island after failing to find a different South Pacific island where they were planning to land. The pair is believed to have landed safely and called for help using the Electra’s radio. And in a twist of fate, the plane was apparently swept out to sea, washing away Earhart and Noonan’s only source of communication. U.S. Navy search planes flew over the island, but not seeing the Electra, passed it by and continued the search elsewhere.
"What makes this the best expedition is the technology we've been able to assemble to search for the wreckage of that airplane," Gillespie told CNN last month. "We have an autonomous vehicle. We have multibeam sonar above the University of Hawaii ship we're on right now. We have a remote-operated vehicle to check out the targets (and a) high-definition camera. We're all set."
Gillespie told Discovery News that if further analysis of the Bevington photo continues to support TIGHAR's theory, the group will seek to recover the objects from the ocean’s depths.
 
Ric Gillespie said:
Gillespie told Discovery News that if further analysis of the Bevington photo continues to support TIGHAR's theory, the group will seek to recover the objects from the ocean’s depths.

How much more analysis of that same, blown-up corner of an ancient photo do they plan on doing?

:rolleyes:

They might find Nessie if they look hard enough.
 
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