With all the projected hiring everywhere, what does this actually look like for the industry? There seems to be two camps — “everyone is getting a job somewhere beyond the regionals” and the “everything is going to be ultra competitive still” crowd. Is the regional’s pilot supply getting pillaged? Are we going to see people hitting hiring minimums getting called? Did Epstein really kill himself?
Delta is planning on hiring 1300 in 2020
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Roger Roger
Bottom of the list
Any projection beyond the next class is just that, a projection. We’re due for an economic correction, and even without that the growth of demand is going to taper off eventually.
As far as all the ridiculous numbers that Boeing et al throw out for needing umpteen gazillion pilots over the next 20 years, I’m fairly certain those are wildly manipulated numbers to help push a number of agendas including reducing required qualifications and expediting single/no pilot aircraft.
Stone Cold
Well-Known Member
Agreed...Hire until we fire is a saying for a reason.
AAPalmTree
Well-Known Member
AA starts to lose almost 1,000/year in 2020 (for many years) to retirement. I know you and UAL are similar. I don’t see how anything short of another 911 results in a furlough.
Kingairer
'Tiger Team' Member
But 9-11 was a surprise and whatever else comes next could be a surprise.
AAPalmTree
Well-Known Member
What was the highest number furloughed on 911? 3,000? So, about three years worth of hiring. I’ve heard (could be BS) that the magical number for furloughs is ~18months to 2 years and it’s worth it for the airline to park guys and be worth the price of requal.
I agree anything could happen. It would just take a lot with the retirements coming. 67 and another 911? Yeah, that would hit the breaks, but not for long.
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
All it takes is a merger, followed by an economic downturn. Ask the TWA guys how that went for them.
jynxyjoe
Queso King
Nonsense I'm gonna be. A big time legacy captain in no time. Nothing will ever go wrong again
AAPalmTree
Well-Known Member
Man you’re a doomsday dude.
Stone Cold
Well-Known Member
I think you meant realist. It's coming. This doesn't go on forever. It's the main reason I'm probably staying where I am. I'm not going to be in the bottom of a seniority list going into a downturn.
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
I am, there's no doubt. I jumped into this industry during a not great period of time, and now I'm basically waiting for the next disaster.
On the other hand, I'm greatfull for when times are good.
Autothrust Blue
Welcome aboard the Washington State Ferries
Bruh were buying 100 jets!
me: “I see 10 in 1Q20, my job as a copilot is secured”
every millennial: “wut”
me: “bish, member the mid 00s?”
Nark
Macho Superpilot
Your place as junior captain is secured. I hope you like reserve life!
Autothrust Blue
Welcome aboard the Washington State Ferries
Actually yes
Nark
Macho Superpilot
I’ve had worse. True. While, not a day off per my philosophy, reserve in base isn’t bad here. Most importantly I can play around the hangar and get useless stuff accomplished.
Autothrust Blue
Welcome aboard the Washington State Ferries
That reminds me, I have to fire up NavScrew.
Nark
Macho Superpilot
Yeah, I remembered this morning. I got something in there.
My only hope is that enough wives are pressuring their husbands to bid off Christmas, that way I can sneak in to a line.
This is true.
I’ve seen about four “this is a permanent upturn!” episodes in my career that really didn’t come to fruition.
Autothrust Blue
Welcome aboard the Washington State Ferries
Considering that the JPWG was all “FYI no unstack height limit for reserves” I doubt many will do so.