DCA instructors get a HUGE pay increase!!

kaiyo4u said:
One thing though, maybe your check pilots should be consistent in their checks. There is one who will not allow the use of the gps for diversion in the Seminole. Why?
The preaching there is "All available resources". If it is available, why does he insist on using the E6B? The GPS is far more accurate and quicker than the E6B. Go to nearest page, highlight the nearest airport, hit direct to and enter twice. It's that fast.

If I were to get him for a check pilot and he refused to let me use the GPS, the lesson would be done and I would ask for my money back on that flight. Even Azma allows the use of GPS....
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Thanks for the input with the issue in the Check Department and I will look into it. Please come visit me any time in the Check Department if you have issues with any of my Check Instructors.

My door is always open to Students and Instructors.
 
"Holding grudges against a flight school is not healthy!"

To let people go uninformed about the history of DCA and the problems I see with the place just wouldn't set well with me. That's while I'll be right here, and over there, telling people what I think of using "we have a deal with comair" as a marketing tool.

Thanks for being concerned about my health, though, very nice of you.
 
Since DCA has that kind of a 'deal' with Comair..... you expect that a school is not going to announce it???? It is a great opportunity for a CFI at the academy. I know as an airline pilot yourself you can definately see the advantages of that type of 'deal' whether it is marketing or not.
 
Well, as an airline pilot, I can see where your program will cause a lot of animosity amongst the new hires. Seniority is everything, and starting a "program" where a guy "gets hired", gets a number, then goes and works as a CFI at DCA, all while accruing seniority. Then, after six months, he steps in front of guys that got hired off the street five months ago?

Management won't care. Looks good on paper. But I can see a deal like this causing a lot of bad feelings between DCA guys and street guys. Not that you would, or should, care about that, but as an airline pilot, I'd sure as heck care about it.

Wonder what the union at Comair thinks about this?
 
That's good to know. I still don't think it will be good for morale. I guess those who have a problem with it can just work somewhere else. I bet the union starts getting complaints with the first class.
 
DE727UPS said:
"I have invited you to come and vist, so you could have a look, but you ran from that like if it could challenge your precious beliefs."

Ahhhh...wasn't that like five years ago when you were in a race with my buddy to see who gets to the airlines first? He's well past 1000 TPIC and a metro checkairman. You're still at DCA....
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Just to disappoint you on that one. I got hired by Republic Airways on the EMB-170 today. So I guess that even after delaying my stay at DCA for 2 extra years, I still got to a Top tier Regional 121 operator before your protege... and will be flying something a little bigger than the Metro huh?

DE727UPS said:
"just when I was starting to give you more respect... how disapointing!"

I've never been worried about your respect. I call them as I see them. DCA's internet rep, marketing tactics that anyone can see, and attack on Jetcareers, is all I need to call the place a joke.
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I agree that the marketing has not been exactly "kosher" in the past. As far as respect goes, I guess you are not really concerned at all, and that says a lot about your posts...


DE727UPS said:
Some guy at APC is talking about going there for the VA benes. I suggested that VA benes makes DCA a tolerable choice. More power to him.
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Agreed.

DE727UPS said:
"close mindedness that someone with your resume should not have..."

Now that's a hoot. My "resume" is what makes it so easy for me to see DCA for what it is and not be afraid to speak up about it. Sorry my resume bothers you.
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No bother at all. What is clear is to me is that you are probably too rooted in your hatred for DCA and cannot fathom the idea of perhaps accepting that it is a viable choice. That is what is sad...
 
This looks like another load of BS and a feeble attempt ONCE again to keep their instructors from walking out. This has happened twice in my history. Sounds similar to the lies in 2003, new airplanes are coming at the beginning of the year. Whatever:bandit:

Does anyone think the union is going to allow the NONunion instructors to make more money that the unionized aircrews? Here, I'll give it to you once again just in case no one was listening. Someone is smoking POLE!

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DCApilot2006 said:
This looks like another load of BS and a feeble attempt ONCE again to keep their instructors from walking out. This has happened twice in my history. Sounds similar to the lies in 2003, new airplanes are coming at the beginning of the year. Whatever:bandit:

Does anyone think the union is going to allow the NONunion instructors to make more money that the unionized aircrews? Here, I'll give it to you once again just in case no one was listening. Someone is smoking POLE!

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No man, no BS. I was on that meeting when it was announced. I am not sure if it is active though, but at the same time there is talk about other companies joining the same scheme. I agre that the union must be ok with it, otherwise it will create a lot of bad vibes... but it is a win - win situation for the companies...
 
Well it's an interesting concept. If the airline training departments and line pilots are getting sick of seeing crazy-low time new hires...but they know people wont apply (as much) to a place with 1000/100 mins, this plan might be worth it for all parties involved.
 
"I still got to a Top tier Regional 121 operator before your protege... "

HAHA...I'd say the jury is still out seeing as he has 1000 TPIC plus and is a checkairman. How about this? We'll see who gets to a major (and not a regional major) sooner...

By the way, he's making 40K plus a year. What's a new hire make at Republic on the E170?

"I agre that the union must be ok with it, otherwise it will create a lot of bad vibes..."

What were the other companies, again? I can see Comair, as Delta/DCA has a lot of influence.
 
"this plan might be worth it for all parties involved"

The problem is it reeks of PFT. I haven't bothered looking yet, but I'd imagine DCA will market it's as "come to our flight school and you get a guaranteed job at DELTA express AIRLINES". There will be some fine print. I'm not a fan of promising joe schmoe an airline job if he is only willing to pay the price of flight school A. That's defines a new area of PFT/PFJ. It's not much different from what JetU is doing, with the exception of being at DCA you get to slave away as a CFI for $13.50 an hour to get the prize of a job at Comair, with seniority to boot.

I'm not liking how this smells.
 
I still say B.S.! Not that I don't doubt you Fabio, but I don't put much faith in what comes out of managements mouth....even here at Comair. No one here knows a thing about this program. I think DCA want a program like this and has I'm sure pitched the idea, but unless this is the only and I mean only source that Comair will hire from, I don't see it happening.
 
"No one here knows a thing about this program."

But Tomahawk.....I mean, RedBaron1, said the union approved it.....
 
H46Bubba.
Talk to Capt McGreggor in airline recruitment at Comair. In fact, he was here and was the one that explained to all the CFI's a couple of months ago. It is in writing and signed by Union leaders, Comair legal and management, and DCA. It has been approved by the union. That is no BS. I don't know who you are asking.... Maybe some junior pilot? It is not a PFT. How can that be. You still have to interview for a slot at Comair. If you don't complete the program, you don't get a job. You are not paying for anything. Comair is paying you to complete your CFI time here. The other 2 airlines are in the works. Those contracts have been approved by union leaders and are awaiting the contracts from their legal departments. The reason why they will allow DCA to do it is because the flight instructors are airline employees. (i.e. employed by Delta)
 
DE727UPS said:
"I still got to a Top tier Regional 121 operator before your protege... "

HAHA...I'd say the jury is still out seeing as he has 1000 TPIC plus and is a checkairman. How about this? We'll see who gets to a major (and not a regional major) sooner...

By the way, he's making 40K plus a year. What's a new hire make at Republic on the E170?
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Sorry that you don't like it. but if I remember well, the bet was who was going to get hired on a part 121 operator first. And like your protege, I have my contacts for a Major later on, but that was not the original bet...let me do a search and get back to you...

DE727UPS said:
"I agre that the union must be ok with it, otherwise it will create a lot of bad vibes..."

What were the other companies, again? I can see Comair, as Delta/DCA has a lot of influence.
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Can't promise anything, but they are companies that have hired our graduates in the past...
 
I went back and looked at my first post about the "race". I did say "regional", assuming my friend was going to shoot for that track. Instead he chose 135 freight for the quick 1000 TPIC and better pay. Guys have been going to good frac jobs and some majors from Amflight, so, we'll see how long it takes him to make the big time. I'd hardly say a new hire E170 F/O is "at the same level" as a 1000 TPIC metro checkairman, but whatever.

I'm gonna guess ASA and PCL...

I started a thread about this at the other site. The vast majority aren't impressed. Go have a look.
 
RedBaron1 said:
H46Bubba.
Talk to Capt McGreggor in airline recruitment at Comair. In fact, he was here and was the one that explained to all the CFI's a couple of months ago. It is in writing and signed by Union leaders, Comair legal and management, and DCA. It has been approved by the union. That is no BS. I don't know who you are asking.... Maybe some junior pilot? It is not a PFT. How can that be. You still have to interview for a slot at Comair. If you don't complete the program, you don't get a job. You are not paying for anything. Comair is paying you to complete your CFI time here. The other 2 airlines are in the works. Those contracts have been approved by union leaders and are awaiting the contracts from their legal departments. The reason why they will allow DCA to do it is because the flight instructors are airline employees. (i.e. employed by Delta)
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Oh I will.;) I'm shooting him an e-mail right now. I hardly call Capt Briner a junior pilot! I'll post a response when i get it.
 
RedBaron1 said:
H46Bubba.
Talk to Capt McGreggor in airline recruitment at Comair. In fact, he was here and was the one that explained to all the CFI's a couple of months ago. It is in writing and signed by Union leaders, Comair legal and management, and DCA. It has been approved by the union. That is no BS. I don't know who you are asking.... Maybe some junior pilot? It is not a PFT. How can that be. You still have to interview for a slot at Comair. If you don't complete the program, you don't get a job. You are not paying for anything. Comair is paying you to complete your CFI time here. The other 2 airlines are in the works. Those contracts have been approved by union leaders and are awaiting the contracts from their legal departments. The reason why they will allow DCA to do it is because the flight instructors are airline employees. (i.e. employed by Delta)
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As an ALPA member at OH, I have trouble believing that this is true. No way are they going to let people get numbers and then go back to flying somewhere else until they build time. If it is military then yes. Too many pilots will not allow this to happen.

P.S. I went to DCA and it was one of the worst decisions I made in my career.
 
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