planediveguy
New Member
Solved the issue today. Thanks anyhow... there is no wait for stage as told to him. He was not submitted to scheduling. I gave him a free review flight for the screw-up...
DCA instructors get a HUGE pay increase!!
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Solved the issue today. Thanks anyhow... there is no wait for stage as told to him. He was not submitted to scheduling. I gave him a free review flight for the screw-up...
kaiyo4u
New Member
I must apologize to you who are working diligently at the school.
I spoke with Fabio and with my instructor today. It seems that I was not put up for stage and my instructor had not given me their phone number.
I was able to contact my instructor in person today and he also apologized for forgetting to put me up for stage.
I now have his phone number and will be able to confirm things before hand.
As far as my word is concerned, when I speak to someone about something, it is my word. I make it a practice to do this, as it keeps me honest and if I don't know about something, you will be told right away. No guessing from me or about me... You will know where I stand by my word...
Screaming_Emu
Well-Known Member
Speaking of DCA, one of my students was kindly asked to leave DCA. He told me that if you are asked to leave the program there is a $2,500 cancellation fee....freakin ridiculous!
Nismaxdan
Well-Known Member
This is the first I have heard of this. I know many people who've left and they were not charged a cancellation fee.
planediveguy
New Member
I don't know of any fee... but will check this out. BTW if your student was ASKED to leave... there is a good reason for it. I cannot go into details due to potential liability, but I would keep my gear in sight at all times... and also make sure that perhaps he is not flying high while on the ground...
The Juice
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Oh the mythical 800 hours of dual "contract" at DCA. This "contract" or
"agreement" as you call it is as real as the Tooth Fairy and Bigfoot. You hold naive instructors at ranson by enforcing a non-existent contract.
Also, it is sad how you make it the instructors responsibility to stay for the sake of the students. Take that notion and drop it into any other business field and you will see how crazy it sounds. "Hey everyone, we know your pay is sub-par and QOL is horrible but please stay because the customer needs you."
Fabio, I wish you luck with Republic and it will be nice when you start to think as an airline pilot and not a DCA apologist.
Screaming_Emu
Well-Known Member
Yeah, we've figured it out. He's just a tiny bit socially akward and needs a little extra time and an instructor who actually takes an interest in his progress. It sounds like to me he had a couple instructors who only wanted to build time, not actually ensure he was learning anything.
planediveguy
New Member
When I went through Standz... back in 03... I remember quite well RM and HR telling me that the job offer was for 800 hours of dual given and all that. If they changed that since then, I was not informed.
Easy for you to say this as when you went through, the instructors were not leaving, Or do you fit the "I got mine, the hell with everyone else" attitude? And the Instructor pay did change, so that is not a factor anymore...
Thanks for the wish and I wish the same to you and all others. As far as my way of thinking... It might change, but I did learn a lot and have a good time at the Academy.
And so did a hell of a lot of people. I just can't sit here and read some of the flamers post their opinions here ( and I am not talking about the ones that have a legitimate gripe, DCA is not for everyone ) and not give the oposite perspective...
planediveguy
New Member
You can hear his side of the story the way it fits you. But as far as I know there is no extra fees when you are terminated.
Students can quit and transfer to another school, and that happens for different reasons as discussed many times here.
or
They are TERMINATED for:
1 - Insufficient academic progress, necessary to maintain acreditation. Simply put they are not performing at the most basic level. Hope that is the case with your student... he might do OK in a part 61 environment and will need a lot of "spoonfeeding"...
2 - Violation of the School's policies as per the Operations Manual. Recent examples are: Stealing or use of illegal substances... (self -explained)
Regardless of the case, I wish you luck, and am happy that you will be taking care of him.
craftypilot
New Member
Hey guys at DCA,
Please understand that at the root of it DCA is a "for profit" business and a very large business at that. Things happen, but the core foundation of quality training at a fare price is the "Core" at DCA. I have been in the business world for over 30 years, a pilot for over 20 and a Flight Instructor for over 7 years. Looking at DCA, from the outside, it has its flaws but is working hard to make it right for the Student (Customer) and Employees. Sometimes, hard decisions have to be made for the betterment of the Academy. We may not all agree with the decisions, but for the Academy as a whole they must be made.
For all you guys that sit back and "beat up" DCA, go work harder at bettering your own life. At DCA their heart is in the right place, to provide quality training at a fair price.
Mike
Please understand that at the root of it DCA is a "for profit" business and a very large business at that. Things happen, but the core foundation of quality training at a fare price is the "Core" at DCA. I have been in the business world for over 30 years, a pilot for over 20 and a Flight Instructor for over 7 years. Looking at DCA, from the outside, it has its flaws but is working hard to make it right for the Student (Customer) and Employees. Sometimes, hard decisions have to be made for the betterment of the Academy. We may not all agree with the decisions, but for the Academy as a whole they must be made.
For all you guys that sit back and "beat up" DCA, go work harder at bettering your own life. At DCA their heart is in the right place, to provide quality training at a fair price.
Mike
H46Bubba
Well-Known Member
Are students drinking at Cici's pizza in uniform again?!
:cwm27:
Screaming_Emu
Well-Known Member
That's the one. Glad to hear you're an expert on my student. Care to give me any other advice?
Nismaxdan
Well-Known Member
Are students drinking at Cici's pizza in uniform again?!
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
planediveguy
New Member
That's the one. Glad to hear you're an expert on my student. Care to give me any other advice?
Yes,
Grow up.
heading180
New Member
Well I think the last time I posted on this site was when I was looking to attend this school, 2005ish. I do not usually post on here as it is apparent that some of you folks are so stuck on the BS and have forgot the nature of why we are here to begin with. It is a passion to fly planes. Nothing else. We all know the airline business is not the "glamorous" job that it used to be. We all know before we start our training that $22 an hour and on reserve is what we will expect. If pay is such a problem then go do something else. There are plenty of jobs in the accounting field, or, you could drive a garbage truck for better pay. I'm sure the City of Orlando would hire any of us.
Why spend the money on flight training when all you are going to do it BITCH.
Now, having said that, I went through the academy. Not from 0 time, but CFI CFII MEI. I also instructed there. I enjoyed my time there. I have made MANY friends from MANY walks of life. I traveled abroad with those friends in a 777 business class seat.. for FREE! The things I learned and experienced are priceless. Was there BS along the way, sure, as there will be with any job. I decided a long time ago to "get over it now" because if we sit here and get stuck on the BS we again forget about our passion for flying.
Everyone also needs to stop blowing their chest out about who flies for who and on what plane. BFD. Who are we, as instructors or ex instructors to say what regional is the best or worst. It's about what works for EACH INDIVIDUAL. My situation will be totally different from another person and my life's goals are set to ONLY satisfy me and my family, not to prove to the next guy that my balls are bigger because I drive a turbojet and he drives a turboprop.
With regards to the name Delta Connection Academy, at the end of my airline interview Captain McGregor stated "I enjoyed having you here today, I always enjoy having you Academy Guys, every one of you are always very prepared for the interview."
That statement put the icing on the cake. And that was not the first thing I heard about my "strong background" that day. From the moment I arrived I felt that I was treated with respect. It felt to me like they were thinking.. "we have an academy guy here today" and they seemed pleased. That alone gave me much of the confidence I needed to succeed that day. Did the academy work for me? Yup.
Lastly, Fabio, I have a great deal of respect for you. I always have. You were someone I could go to and get the 'straight up'. Your office was a place I could be comfortable. You were the one person I felt I could go to and say what was on my mind and not be judged for it. I feel like you are too good for this crap on here. You should NOT have to defend your position to anyone because as previously stated, we are all different, each with different goals. What works for you worked for you, and likewise.
I look forward to seeing each and every one of you throughout our career. However, don't expect me to get into a dick size competition because I don't really care!!
ROB
Why spend the money on flight training when all you are going to do it BITCH.
Now, having said that, I went through the academy. Not from 0 time, but CFI CFII MEI. I also instructed there. I enjoyed my time there. I have made MANY friends from MANY walks of life. I traveled abroad with those friends in a 777 business class seat.. for FREE! The things I learned and experienced are priceless. Was there BS along the way, sure, as there will be with any job. I decided a long time ago to "get over it now" because if we sit here and get stuck on the BS we again forget about our passion for flying.
Everyone also needs to stop blowing their chest out about who flies for who and on what plane. BFD. Who are we, as instructors or ex instructors to say what regional is the best or worst. It's about what works for EACH INDIVIDUAL. My situation will be totally different from another person and my life's goals are set to ONLY satisfy me and my family, not to prove to the next guy that my balls are bigger because I drive a turbojet and he drives a turboprop.
With regards to the name Delta Connection Academy, at the end of my airline interview Captain McGregor stated "I enjoyed having you here today, I always enjoy having you Academy Guys, every one of you are always very prepared for the interview."
That statement put the icing on the cake. And that was not the first thing I heard about my "strong background" that day. From the moment I arrived I felt that I was treated with respect. It felt to me like they were thinking.. "we have an academy guy here today" and they seemed pleased. That alone gave me much of the confidence I needed to succeed that day. Did the academy work for me? Yup.
Lastly, Fabio, I have a great deal of respect for you. I always have. You were someone I could go to and get the 'straight up'. Your office was a place I could be comfortable. You were the one person I felt I could go to and say what was on my mind and not be judged for it. I feel like you are too good for this crap on here. You should NOT have to defend your position to anyone because as previously stated, we are all different, each with different goals. What works for you worked for you, and likewise.
I look forward to seeing each and every one of you throughout our career. However, don't expect me to get into a dick size competition because I don't really care!!
ROB
granlistillo
Well-Known Member
Ever hear the term kool-aid drinker and DCA mentioned in the same sentence? Any criticism of DCA is most likely well deserved. Some may be bs, but DCA does seem to have more than its fair share of detractors, no?
planediveguy
New Member
Hi Matt!
I have a lot of fun on this forum.... I am glad they keep it going!
PM me and keep in touch...