You do realize that up until recently, PFT was "normal" at the regional level...
Not really.
Even back in my regional days you had choices and it was still seen as an aberration for the most part.
You do realize that up until recently, PFT was "normal" at the regional level...
Not really.
Even back in my regional days you had choices and it was still seen as an aberration for the most part.
:yeahthat:For the passengers who say our pay needs to be raised to "whatever it takes"...
I wonder what their reaction would be if they were asked at the same time "even if it meant an increase in ticket prices?"
You do realize that up until recently, PFT was "normal" at the regional level...
Its pretty crazy sitting in the airplane making $21,000(with per diem) next to a senior capt making 100,000k+ and thinking that its not fair. Then he looks over and go, you know you young SOBs are lucky as hell. I made $1000 my 1st year at ASA, ($11,000 gross-10,000 PFT) had to pay for my hotel, go thru a hellish E120 training program, and when I finally moved to the right seat of the jet, I got $21/hr! And this is the conditions for pilots that were hired with aleast 2000TT!
It will be very hard for the public to care when more senior pilots at the airline really don't care(basically everybody past 1st yr). They look at it as "heck, they have it ALOT better than we did!" And its only one year, they'll survive!
1st year pay at the airlines is a tradition that will not stop until there are no resumes on H.R.'s desk.
Love the excuses. No wonder things won't change.
The only people that will change our conditions are ourselves, at least those of us who give enough to actively fight for better conditions.
I think this industry came a hair away from increased 1st year wages in '07/'08. There were rock bottom minimums and some airlines were giving hiring bonuses and referral bonuses to employees who recommended a new hire FO. If the economy didn't take a dump and the retirement age was not increased, I think maybe the airlines may have bumped up the first year pay a little by now.
Yo I've been saying this for a while now but people still swear by the "oh they'll just drop minimums" negativity. This is after its been proven that Comair and PNCL offered significant 1st yr pay boosts.
Its pretty crazy sitting in the airplane making $21,000(with per diem) next to a senior capt making 100,000k+ and thinking that its not fair. Then he looks over and go, you know you young SOBs are lucky as hell.....
Is there anyone in the aviation community with the last name "Cohen" that isn't trying to bend over pilots? That's not meant as a racist thing, but that name keeps popping up.
You do realize that up until recently, PFT was "normal" at the regional level...
We've only been picketing with signs that say, "I make less than $21,000 a year" for about fifteen years. I also seem to remember quite a few full page ads in the USA Todaythat said about the same thing. Now they notice? Whatever.
And how long will they notice? Is this topic just the sensational headline-grabber for this week, so far as the national news is concerned?
Not if we make Remember3407 the watch dog group.
And how long will they notice?
Is this topic just the sensational headline-grabber for this week, so far as the national news is concerned?