Changing the lav

If I'm not mistaken, the newer Hawker models (750, 850 and 900) do away with the doughnut.

Speaking of fermenting lav juice, we were in Punta Cana, Dominican Republic about a year ago. Our boss likes to fill up his intestines for 3 or 4 days before a trip, just for the novelty of destroying the airplane lav and making everyone on board as miserable as possible. It doesn't help that his father has a colon blowout every 45 minutes.

We land, clean up, request a lav service and head to the resort. Four days later, we are prepping the cabin for departure, and I go back to check the lav. Bad move. It hadn't been done and it was terrible.

We tracked down the handler and told him it HAD to be done, and immediately. He made a call, and a lav truck came over from the airline terminal. The truck was rigged with a short hose, as it only had to pull up under the belly of a 737 and make the short connection. The Hawker service port is behind the left flap. The hose wasn't going to reach.

The solution; an industrial sized garbage can, tilted on it's side to fit under the dump port. The EPA would have had a fit.
 
Gosh, reading some of your stories in here makes me think I want to keep working on little planes...
 
All this about no servicing what about the over-service? Gotta love walking back to find you're one juice box away from a catastrophe:eek:.
 
trafficinsight said:
Hawker lavs should come with combat pay.
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this.



TFaudree_ERAU said:
If I'm not mistaken, the newer Hawker models (750, 850 and 900) do away with the doughnut.

Speaking of fermenting lav juice, we were in Punta Cana, Dominican Republic about a year ago. Our boss likes to fill up his intestines for 3 or 4 days before a trip, just for the novelty of destroying the airplane lav and making everyone on board as miserable as possible. It doesn't help that his father has a colon blowout every 45 minutes.

We land, clean up, request a lav service and head to the resort. Four days later, we are prepping the cabin for departure, and I go back to check the lav. Bad move. It hadn't been done and it was terrible.

We tracked down the handler and told him it HAD to be done, and immediately. He made a call, and a lav truck came over from the airline terminal. The truck was rigged with a short hose, as it only had to pull up under the belly of a 737 and make the short connection. The Hawker service port is behind the left flap. The hose wasn't going to reach.

The solution; an industrial sized garbage can, tilted on it's side to fit under the dump port. The EPA would have had a fit.
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:clap::clap::rotfl::rotfl:
 
Hey, Mini- next time, you should probably make sure the line guy services the lav instead of just dumping it.
 
Ahhh that's what I loved about the Baron - no lav! Now the King Air has one, after hearing the tales in this thread I think it will be placarded inop for the next trip!

Bp244
 
Mike H said:
Hey, Mini- next time, you should probably make sure the line guy services the lav instead of just dumping it.
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Yeah, I thought I was being nice by saying "thanks for the help man!" and handing him a $20. Then he turns away and runs and I pick up the damn thing.........

Oh well.

Lesson learned...























...don't tip! :rotfl:

-mini
 
Atleast in the 414 we have a pilot relief tube...which I had to use on this past trip...4 hours without a stop can do that.

For the bucket though, we have a stash of target bags for the inside and kitty litter! Atleast it's an easy clean up in the event it gets used!
 
747F's have some interesting properties to them, mostly because the lav tank and the dump port are about 3 miles away from each other. Right at the dump there's a heavy duty ball valve which is what actually holds in the AC pressurization (I think). In any event, because there's a lot of hose between the lav tank and the ball valve all the excess blue juice, etc, lining the hose drains down to the ball valve in flight and freezes, creating an ice plug about 2 inches thick.

Right next to the dump port is a t-handle which you pull down which opens the valve at the bottom of the lav tank. Long story short, if you don't open the ball valve and knock out the ice plug first, then pull the handle you'll just get a whole lot of blue juice (and associated stuff) stuck behind the ice plug. Then someone will have to knock out the ice plug while the lav truck is right under the dump port and hope most of it hits the big opening in the back of the truck.

All of the above really sucks when it's right around zero on the ramp and the wind is blowing 30 knots.
 
AZBigDog said:
Here's one for ya. How about armpit deep in an Airbus lav tank trying to unclog it. Been there, done that!
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Hahaha, I saw one of our A&P's here in PHX climbing up the jetway stairs with a huge arm length glove...poor bastard...
 
GreasySideUp said:
All this about no servicing what about the over-service? Gotta love walking back to find you're one juice box away from a catastrophe:eek:.
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Working with a 525B that had been overserviced so many times, they had to de-mate the wings to clean up the corrosion!! The cost is approaching $100k

There's a good reason to remove the lid and check the level when you get it from the line guy.
 
dustoff17 said:
Working with a 525B that had been overserviced so many times, they had to de-mate the wings to clean up the corrosion!! The cost is approaching $100k
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[technical nazi hat]
Wing.

There's only one.

...or I guess if I'm wearing the Technical Nazi Hat, ahem....

VING!!!

There's only vun!!!

[/technical nazi hat]

:D

-mini
 
minitour said:
I'm still trying to get over the fact that the line guy at an FBO very near and dear to your heart could look me in the eye, hand me the completely empty lav (which I'm paying $55 for him to "service", not "empty") and then take the $20 and walk away.
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Didn't you (or your f/o) notice that the lav was a little lighter than usual? I know with ours, I'm petrified during the walk out and walk in as I feel the fluid sloshing back and forth... I'm just waiting for the day when I trip or something and it all goes flying inside. Fortunately our pax don't use it very often!
 
wrxpilot said:
Didn't you (or your f/o) notice that the lav was a little lighter than usual?
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Yes. As soon as I picked it up from him. That's kinda how I realized it wasn't completely "serviced"

(He handed it to me by the handle, so it was a one handed motion. He was handing me the lav, which I took from him...as I was handing him the cash and saying "thanks".)

Don't you close up the valve and tighten the cap? Shouldn't be worried about it spilling...it won't.

...trust me. :o

-mini
 
minitour said:
Yes. As soon as I picked it up from him. That's kinda how I realized it wasn't completely "serviced"

(He handed it to me by the handle, so it was a one handed motion. He was handing me the lav, which I took from him...as I was handing him the cash and saying "thanks".)

Don't you close up the valve and tighten the cap? Shouldn't be worried about it spilling...it won't.

...trust me. :o

-mini
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Ah, that makes more sense. Hopefully you made him fill it up right away, that's pretty ridiculous.

Yes, I secure the lav that way. But it still scares me when I'm walking inside the airplane with it!
 
minitour said:
[technical nazi hat]
Wing.

There's only one.

...or I guess if I'm wearing the Technical Nazi Hat, ahem....

VING!!!

There's only vun!!!

[/technical nazi hat]

:D

-mini
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I look at the plane and see two. You're 93 gauge aircraft must be very interesting.

You write this only because you've never seen one assembled. There are two wings, assembled in two different places, put together with the center section, then mated to the plane in one piece.

You can't take one wing off without taking off the other; therefore, it's wings.
 
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