Challenger Truckee
- Thread starter Boris Badenov
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Roger Roger
Bottom of the list
THAT would be • and elbows in a jet.
Richman
JC’s Resident Curmudgeon
Could be worse. There are more than a few plates in Alaska marked “go around improbable.”
Beefy McGee
Well-Known Member
Yikes! Better get it down the first time.
Space Monkey
Arbitrariness replaces reason with authority.
Really? "You must cancel before you request." Like, ah, that???
Space Monkey
Arbitrariness replaces reason with authority.
I don't know. Which one is at question, again? If we can specify, I can probably give you an answer.
Space Monkey
Arbitrariness replaces reason with authority.
Well, technically, afaik, a visual approach is executed on an IFR flight plan. I think ORD approach was messing with you. As I stated earlier, a visual approach not under IFR is just an approach.
At PWK, if they need you to circle, they'll ask you to call the airport in sight and then cancel. Then, and only then may you proceed on the downwind. This is an ORD interference deal. ATC doesn't want responsibility for you as you (maybe) incur upon ORD airspace.
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Space Monkey
Arbitrariness replaces reason with authority.
What's MSA?? As in ALL things aviation, "it depends."
Space Monkey
Arbitrariness replaces reason with authority.
Yeah. But I've never gone in there that they didn't demand a cancellation before executing the circle to 34.
Space Monkey
Arbitrariness replaces reason with authority.
Unless they're not busy and quick, MSA more likely.
I have. Often.
Space Monkey
Arbitrariness replaces reason with authority.
Joey, do you like Gladiator movies, and Whittier?
Space Monkey
Arbitrariness replaces reason with authority.
Hmm. I'm just lucky, I guess.
Conrad
Well-Known Member
UPDATED: 6 dead, 2 crew, 4 passengers.
Date: 26-JUL-21
Time: 18:45:00Z
Regis#: N605TR
Aircraft Make: BOMBARDIER
Aircraft Model: CL-600-2B16
Event Type: ACCIDENT
Highest Injury: FATAL
Total Fatal: 6
Flight Crew: 2
Pax: 4
Aircraft Missing: No
Damage: SUBSTANTIAL
Activity: PERSONAL
Flight Phase: APPROACH (APR)
Operation: 91
City: TRUCKEE
State: CALIFORNIA
Date: 26-JUL-21
Time: 18:45:00Z
Regis#: N605TR
Aircraft Make: BOMBARDIER
Aircraft Model: CL-600-2B16
Event Type: ACCIDENT
Highest Injury: FATAL
Total Fatal: 6
Flight Crew: 2
Pax: 4
Aircraft Missing: No
Damage: SUBSTANTIAL
Activity: PERSONAL
Flight Phase: APPROACH (APR)
Operation: 91
City: TRUCKEE
State: CALIFORNIA
Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
Ooh, crap. They just now figured out there were three more people on it? No expert but I thought that was on the flight plan. Rip.
KLB
Well-Known Member
That's if the flight plan was properly filed...
I wonder if this aircraft was managed by an operator?
NovemberEcho
Dergs favorite member
approach doesn’t use MSA that’s an enroute thing only.
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Space Monkey
Arbitrariness replaces reason with authority.
Fair enough.
Still, pays to know precisely where you are relative to terrain. I've had controllers try to MVA me into terrain before. Thankfully, my overly observant and obstreperous nature prevented such a catastrophe. Always likes to keep my feathers numbered.
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Space Monkey
Arbitrariness replaces reason with authority.
Wow! Thanks, FAA! Your oversight is perspicacious and precisely aimed. Channeling Damon in The Departed now, "why don't you go ramp check a kitten in a tree."