Based on the picture do you think the pilots...

[Apophis]

But, back to the more important topic...how badarse it is to operate off grass runways.

I always land in the grass. Of course, the aircraft I fly is a bit.....................different.

 

[dvtpilot]

Limitation of Tapatalk. Talk to Mobiquo about it as my hands are tied.

Mine has a view poll option at the top on tapatalk for the iPhone

 

[z987k]

I'm betting that as a reporter misunderstanding what he was told. If that plane doesn't have brakes, it likely doesn't have nose steering either (and reverse/differential power are...minimally effective).

Reverse is minimally effective on a turboprop? Huh? What did they do to neuter it?

 

[darrenf]

Mine has a view poll option at the top on tapatalk for the iPhone

Hmm. Not mine.

 

[derg]

Hmm. Not mine.

I havent checked the iPhone app but the iPad app doesn't have it.


Sent from my TRS-80

 

[BobDDuck]

Not speaking from experience, or knowledge, but wouldn't the grass reduce damage to this particular aircraft? That concrete CAN'T be good for landing gear.

I doubt it. We had an RJ go into the EMAS a few years back. They used a tow truck to pull it out, had some mechanics inspect it and then flew it back to a MX base with the gear pinned down. In the end they replaced all three gear struts and tire assemblies, but there was very little damage in general.

 

[Teller1900]

Reverse is minimally effective on a turboprop? Huh? What did they do to neuter it?

With the props so close to the rudder, anything more than shallow beta (maybe a quarter inch past the gate on the levers) and it washes out the rudder. It starts slapping back and forth and you get one hellofan eye opening ride. It's a mistake you only need to make once.

 

[Teller1900]

Not speaking from experience, or knowledge, but wouldn't the grass reduce damage to this particular aircraft? That concrete CAN'T be good for landing gear.

After you mentioned the EMAS, I figured there was some consideration for the low-sitting nose and canards of the P.180.

Nahh, no such limitations or even suggestions in the books for that. The forward wing is a lot higher off the ground than you might think. Not to mention, that's the whole point of EMAS. Voluntarily putting a fast moving plane into grass that isn't designed to be, or manicured as, a runway is a pretty big gamble with both your life and your career. Just look at the pictures of the Pistachio off the runway in FNT to see what I mean...

 

[GX]

I doubt it. We had an RJ go into the EMAS a few years back. They used a tow truck to pull it out, had some mechanics inspect it and then flew it back to a MX base with the gear pinned down. In the end they replaced all three gear struts and tire assemblies, but there was very little damage in general.

You just made "needed 3 new landing gear assemblies" sound like "that'll buff right out".