Roger Roger
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I’m not an airline guy so I’m probably out of my depth on this but….really sounds to me like you’re trying way too hard and coming up with a “the sim instructor just wants to • with you” scenario
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BEEF SUPREME
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He'll probably get hired by our checking department to come up with the next multi failure nightmare scenario that forces you to hand fly into a runway like Juneau, Jackson Hole or Santa Barbara. You know, to cement in really bad decision making.
Roger Roger
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Oh no mr check airman don’t make me hand fly into juneau anything but that
BEEF SUPREME
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Use the under wing drip sticks.
Are there zombies and if we don't leave we will die? No? Oh, well then back to the hotel for me!
BEEF SUPREME
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I hand fly in there all the time. No bigs. During normal ops.
The thing is it's a really bad idea to land at say SBA with a navigation and hydraulic failure. When LAX or other super long runways are available. In fact I'd say it reenforces bad decision making. But that was last years LOFT.
This year they force us into JNU on the LDA but I don't know the mechanism for it. At every single shop I've worked at the multi failure that drives one to make bad decisions has always been scoffed at, except the Eskimo.
Roger Roger
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Even 135 trash doesn’t use the LDA anymore
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Let’s be fair, the SBA scenario was on day 1 which is the training LOFT. Actual checkeide day 3 was not SBA.
LDAs are a joke, it’s still LNAV/VNAV and AP on. Now you might have a failure that forces you to perhaps fly it in a different mode.
BEEF SUPREME
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Apparently we do with FMC backup but you have to hand jam the missed in. They force us to see what amazing checking they do by creating this wildly stupid scenario.
We need to just make a wall covered with their pictures so they stop taking out their insecurities on us. We could call it the Hall Of Legends or something similiar.... oh wait.
BEEF SUPREME
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What does LOFT stand for again???
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
What if you have a failure where VNAV won’t engage? Now you can’t legally do RNAV approaches.
Roger Roger
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Don’t have to fly the missed if you don’t go missed
*for legal reasons this is a joke
BEEF SUPREME
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It's important to reenforce good decision making like going below minimums on a substandard approach for example. Rather than just, you know going back to ANC.
ShortField
No one of consequence
We have to with surprising regularity when the Taku winds are blowing. Does the missed on yours take you down the channel?
ShortField
No one of consequence
Also referred to as the WAM approach. We Ain’t Missin’.
Roger Roger
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No, our fancy new approach still has a 180° turn for the missed. I wish we had a departure down the channel. If only someone who did was hiring…wait. I’ll be back I have some paperwork to fill out
ShortField
No one of consequence
Come on in. The water is fine.
Roger Roger
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Also that checks out. But if the takus are blowing the only reason you have to worry about a missed is wind shear, because you’ll be seeing the airport from TOD
alaskadrifter
Landing gear operator
SE AK is the only part of the state I haven’t gotten to fly in, I look forward to experiencing it. From the sim session we did in JNU during training it reminds me of DUT.
