I know, I remember reading that debacle of a thread...Yep he was going to cross the line.
Yes, and I understand that there are very decent companies in 135 and 91 who do compensate their pilots in several ways and reward them. There are just as many sadly that do not however. Some of the rates and perks and comps can be very good and at other entities...not so much. There is a large disparity in 91 and 135. Everything from making guys pay for training and type to you name it....well you/we know this already. Flight schools for CFIs are in the same boat from dreck to very good. When I read some of the things that people endure on here or that some companies offer, I just shudder.It's not automatic, but it isn't unheard of. No two 91 flight departments operate in the same manner when it comes to compensation and bonuses. Hell, there was a thread on another site about expenses on the road, and even I was surprised how many different ways it's handled.
What the hell are you getting at? Every single role at an airline has some sort of Leadership aspect. Captain is a leader, lead FA is a leader, and then everyone has the responsibility to step up and lead if the need arises. What is your obssesion with this so called leadership tangent you're going off on? Airlines have specific approved positions and roles, you can't just deem yourself team leader of the crewroom one day.Besides CFO/CIO I do not see what roles couldn't be transitioned from the pilot role.
Tell that to Management then. The days of Juan Trippe ended a long damn time ago. Enter Frank Lorenzo, Carl Icahn, et al. Employees are given their roles by management and those roles are laid out in detail all by management as THEY deem fit. To make a group "feel better" and quiet them, they may bring on/in a new role from time to time. Doesn't translate to anything changing in truth though.Besides CFO/CIO I do not see what roles couldn't be transitioned from the pilot role.
Leadership team is the new HBR term for management.
You would imagine? You are not aware of what, how and why all of this changed then nor the details of how things used to be and how they have evolved/devolved? You have not read/studied the history of this or read the threads on this forum and other aviation forums or even the host of books written on the subject in all these years either? This is just getting sillier by the moment.What I am saying is I am surprised pilots are climbing the ladder into VP, and C level positions. Most airlines date back to pilots founding them, and I would imagine for a long time they were the major players in running the business.
What I am saying is I am surprised pilots are climbing the ladder into VP, and C level positions. Most airlines date back to pilots founding them, and I would imagine for a long time they were the major players in running the business.
Starbucks calls everyone an associate. He must be thinking along those lines.Ahhh so you're saying Delta should have 70,000+ Management positions? Or 12,000 if you think only pilots should be management? Thats alot of cooks in the kitchen.
What world do you live in? Your hospital was about to cut off negotiations and a large group of workers were going to not come to work (except you). Where does that seem to be better working relations? I'm pretty sure thousands of pilots would have loved to walk off the job if they weren't in fear of getting arrested because of the RLA. You on the other hand like to reap the benefits that are negotiated by hard working men and women but aren't willing to do what's necessary to get those benefits. To me that's about as basic as stealing but that's another argument.I think one of the ways my professions is so intertwined with leadership is taking ownership of these issues - there are more front end workers in high ranking positions which I believe have made all negotiations and employee relations better.
I'll take two Advil for 35 dollars. Supply and demand my friend.I'm not sure taking cues from the healthcare "industry" on how to manage...well, anything...is a good idea.
In a workplace that is about saving human lives, hospitals are human factors disasters.I'll take two Advil for 35 dollars. Supply and demand my friend.![]()
I'm pretty sure thousands of pilots would have loved to walk off the job if they weren't in fear of getting arrested because of the RLA.