Aircraft crashes into building in NYC

That's a west coast flight school, what was the guy doing giving instruction to somebody in New York?

One of our local news stations interviewed someone from the flight school at Brackett that Cory trained at and the guy said that Cory asked the flight instructor to accompany him back to CA on this trip. The reporter didn't ask if yesterday's trip was the start of the x-country or not.

Updated...here's the link to another story about Tyler Stanger. The trip the two were on was to be a 3 day x-country:
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/10061586/detail.html
 
Not to nitpick, but hi-perf a/c = > 200hp. I did a BFR for a guy from Mexico not too long ago in his SR-20. Can't say I'm a big fan of the plane.

I was always told that High Performance is > 200, hense the old Mooney 201.

FAR 61.31
(f)(2) of this section, no person may act as pilot in command of a high-performance airplane (an airplane with an engine of more than 200 horsepower), unless the person has--

Also, they reported the CFI was from CA.
 
A high performance used to be simply 200 HP, in 1997 the FAA changed it to read that the plane needed to have MORE THAN 200 HP, meaning 201 or greater.

The 201 has 200 HP.
 
A high performance used to be simply 200 HP, in 1997 the FAA changed it to read that the plane needed to have MORE THAN 200 HP, meaning 201 or greater.

The 201 has 200 HP.

Sorry, I was told that is why it was called to 201. Should of known not to comment on something from a Mooney owner!:sarcasm:
 
Sports Illustrated jumping on the inaccurate aviation information bandwagon. Read the caption under the picture in this article.

Also, maybe a poor choice of words (I'm sure unintentional) by "aviation expert"/journalist, Robert Hager in the last paragraph of the article.
 
quote from AP article...



Is this the thought process that has been a contributing cause to some of the Cirrus accidents. I think it really over simplifies the complex systems of the planes....

I believe, when trying to pacify an ignorant public, simplicity is best. When I decide to purchase an airplane, to maximize the "perception" of safe, what should one do?

1. Single engine aircraft? Naw, one engine could never be safe. . .unless perhaps if that one engine is a jet. :sarcasm:

2. Multi-engine vice single engine? Well, how many? 2/3/4? What truly safe? :confused: (As a sit and ponder the tens of thousands of twins having flown safely throughout decades!)

3. Well, in talking to "non-pilot/layperson" types, their perception of safe in a single engine GA plane would be a parachute. . .and technically, it is. . .as a very last resort when all flying skills/prowess prove ineffective/uncapable of safely "piloting" an aircraft to a safe landing. I used the same reason for having a parachute in an airplane as a do aerobatic and military fighter aircraft. . .utilize it when all else fails.
 
Cosidering that the 2 people perished, you still find time to make fun of our franchise.

Uh...the only thing that the plane crash had to do with the Yankees is that Lidle used to pitch for the Yanks. He wasn't going to be in pinstripes in 2007 and you know it.

Come on, man. You're a Yanks fan. You should be used to getting ribbed.

Hell, man, the Yanks almost fired a man who has won four World Series for them and you don't expect to get some grief about their relative lack of return on investment?
 
Sports Illustrated jumping on the inaccurate aviation information bandwagon. Read the caption under the picture in this article.

Also, maybe a poor choice of words (I'm sure unintentional) by "aviation expert"/journalist, Robert Hager in the last paragraph of the article.
OMG Hilarious. Yeah that really looks like an SR-20! :sarcasm:
It's funny how if that photo would have been of a car, they probably would've gotten it right. I don't know why is it always with aviation that people get everything wrong. Doing research for aviation is no different than doing research for any topic. Especially if you're a news source, I would expect you to have your info correct. Geeeez....
 
Uh...the only thing that the plane crash had to do with the Yankees is that Lidle used to pitch for the Yanks. He wasn't going to be in pinstripes in 2007 and you know it.

Come on, man. You're a Yanks fan. You should be used to getting ribbed.

Hell, man, the Yanks almost fired a man who has won four World Series for them and you don't expect to get some grief about their relative lack of return on investment?

Ribbing is a healthy part of life, we should ALL get it occasionally;) . The last 4 or so World Series proved that money doesn't always get it...I believe it just gets it EVENTUALLY. It obviously can't buy drive, determination, emotion, chemistry, intagibles, etc. I vote for getting in a time machine, going back 6 years and kidnapping O'Neil, Brosius, Clemens, Pettite, Rivera etc..etc...and letting them play from next year on:rawk: .

Anyhow, RIP Mr. Lidle and Mr. Stanger. I wish that, just like when someone important in baseball dies the players wear a black band or something similar, when we lose one of our own colleagues, there should be something tasteful that us instructors(and other aviators) could wear. I don't know what, but I'm thinking about it.

If the NTSB and FAA deem that decisionmaking appears to be the most probably cause of this tragedy, then it shows us all that we must maintain vigilance and guard against bad decisions no matter how many hours of flight time we have. If I'm not mistaken, Mr. Crossfield lost his life possibly due to a bad decision...as it's been said, SUPERIOR pilots use their SUPERIOR judgement, to keep from having to use their SUPERIOR skills. NONE of us are immune from death, and we all need to drive that point home to our students, and mostly, OURSELVES.
 
When I was flight instructing I was able to turn a lot of people on to flying by taking them up the Hudson River corrider, transition over Central Park down the East River and back up. To ban this would be devestating for the flying in the area.
 
When I was flight instructing I was able to turn a lot of people on to flying by taking them up the Hudson River corrider, transition over Central Park down the East River and back up. To ban this would be devestating for the flying in the area.

No ban, but you will now need a sqwauk code......

Fixed-wing planes have been banned from the East River corridor in New York unless the pilot is in contact with air traffic control, the Federal Aviation Administration said Friday.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TRAVEL/10/13/faa.plane.crash.ap/index.html

Now I am not sure what a code would have done to help this.:confused: :insane:
 
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