Aircraft crashes into building in NYC

darrenf said:
Where do they find these people??

http://www.nydailynews.com//front/story/461614p-388341c.html

97 Knots is "damn close" to the stalling speed???? What an idiot!

More like damn close to DOUBLE the stall speed of 54 Knots.
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You ever do accelerated stalls? At the bank angles witnesses are reporting, 97 kts would be damn close to stalling speed.

The guy is a former NTSB member, I doubt he's "an idiot" and as uninformed as you're projecting he is
 
Red5xwingdriver said:
....I wish that, just like when someone important in baseball dies the players wear a black band or something similar, when we lose one of our own colleagues, there should be something tasteful that us instructors(and other aviators) could wear. I don't know what, but I'm thinking about it.....
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For everyone? Or just the famous ones?
 
Chris_Ford said:
You ever do accelerated stalls? At the bank angles witnesses are reporting, 97 kts would be damn close to stalling speed.

The guy is a former NTSB member, I doubt he's "an idiot" and as uninformed as you're projecting he is
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Yeah, I guess if you are playing Patty Wagstaff, they could have been close to stall. Maybe in my haste to bash the news I didn't think that through enough.

But, when it comes to the Government officials that the press find for quotes, yes, they seem to find the idiots. And former NTSB member doesn't really mean anything to me in terms of credentials. Does the name Jim Hall ring a bell??
 
darrenf said:
Yeah, I guess if you are playing Patty Wagstaff, they could have been close to stall. Maybe in my haste to bash the news I didn't think that through enough.
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45 degrees of bank (hardly Patty Wagstaff) will raise the stall speed considerably higher. Try it next time you're with an instructor and play with different amounts of bank.
 
Chris_Ford said:
45 degrees of bank (hardly Patty Wagstaff) will raise the stall speed considerably higher. Try it next time you're with an instructor and play with different amounts of bank.
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I agree. The stall speed DOES go up considerably such that what was quoted in that article could definitely be true and very likely if the plane was indeed in a steep turn.
 
Wow, I just realized that the instructor onboard the plane was someone I took a few lessons from when I was first starting to fly. I didn't know him that well or anything, but, it's really odd to be connected to such a major story.
 
mikecweb said:
For everyone? Or just the famous ones?
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This would be for EVERYONE. There are, I believe, over 600,000 certificated pilots here in the U.S., and we ALL would deserve something like that. I didn't mean to imply otherwise. Also, the idea would be to enhance safety to a degree (without silly regulations or restrictions) that we would hardly need to have to wear something memorializing the sudden death of a colleague or brother/sister aviator, no matter how famous or not they are. Be Kool brother:cool: .
 
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