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trafficinsight said:
I think it entirely possible that drivers everywhere are equally bad and everyone just thinks the drivers where they are are so much worse than the drivers where they were.

Example: Because I learned to drive in Los Angeles I think the drivers in the bay area are awful :p
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I generally agree with this, but will add that the southeast corner of the DC beltway near Andrews AFB is the absolute worst.
 
trafficinsight said:
It's that they're worse in ways that you notice.

For instance I don't care what anyone says but in California it's 100% normal to ride in the left lane, we don't give a crap if it's improper and no amount of whining is going to change that.
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I was about to mention this. I’m on I-8 and I-10 often going into and out of AZ/CA, and I’m always seeing California plate vehicles just cruising along in the left lane. Not speeding, mind you, but just cruising along as if it’s the right lane. And when they cross into AZ, they do the same thing. If you come up behind them and give a friendly flash of the headlights, it means nothing and they don’t move. You often have to pass them in the right lane.

The only reason I can think of, at least on these two particular highways, is on parts of these interstates, the right lane is generally beat up asphalt with ruts, shallow potholes and general unevenness. The left lane is often smoother, and maybe that’s why people seem to cruise there?

The only other license plate vehicles I see that seem to do this, is Texas plated vehicles.
 
trafficinsight said:
I think it entirely possible that drivers everywhere are equally bad and everyone just thinks the drivers where they are are so much worse than the drivers where they were.

Example: Because I learned to drive in Los Angeles I think the drivers in the bay area are awful :p
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People always think their neighboring states have the worst drivers. I think it's just a cognitive bias because out of state license plates stand out more, so you're more likely to remember a particular bad driver if they're from out of state; plus people are often have a sense of rivalry with other states in the first place.

When I lived in southern Wisconsin it seemed like the worst drivers had Illinois license plates and now that I live in New Jersey it seems like the most obnoxious drivers have New York or Pennsylvania license plates.
 
NovemberEcho said:
of course urban roads won’t be as deadly. Hard to have a fatal car accident in bumper to bumper traffic moving at 10mph. Hell it’s 930pm on a Sunday night and there’s a 54 minute traffic jam just to get into NYC. Not to mention how much closer to first responders and ambulances you are than in the boonies. Plenty of deaths in rural areas that wouldn’t happen in an urban area simply because of response time.
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It’s not just fatal accidents per capita, practically every relevant stat I could find when I was looking at it agreed. The one that was a standout from the Montana/Wyoming/Alabama/Louisana crowd, and that most people would probably agree with, was Florida.
 
Imma channel the not-so-dearly-departed and just say that all of us apes are bad at driving. And subjectively, the more someone talks about how bad everyone else drives, the worse driver they tend to be. If I could have a lifestyle where I never need to drive again, I’d be ecstatic.
 
Skåning said:
I’m from LA (and moved to the PNW) and at least in SoCal they know the left lane is to go fast. Up here they get on the freeway and immediately zip to the left lane for some weird reason, then all tailgate.
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Yeah, this is why it annoys me so much. It doesn't bother me if someone parks in the left lane, as long as they are going fast enough to not be impeding anyone. But the folks who do this in OR/WA have no business being in the passing lane......and probably have no business being behind the wheel outside of the middle of nowhere.
 
Roger Roger said:
Imma channel the not-so-dearly-departed and just say that all of us apes are bad at driving. And subjectively, the more someone talks about how bad everyone else drives, the worse driver they tend to be. If I could have a lifestyle where I never need to drive again, I’d be ecstatic.
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I agree that the driving public has a massive case of "if I'm behind you, you're too slow, if you're passing me you're going too fast"-itis. But that is just one of those failures of self awareness that are kind of a hallmark of humanity. I think there are objective means of determining whether someone is actually a bad driver. 1) how often do other drivers show rage at you, and 2) how often are you involved in accidents? If the answer to both questions is "never", you are probably doing well, and above average.
 
trafficinsight said:
That said up here the freeways have personalities. 101 is chaos. 280 is laid back. People on 85 think that's the minimum speed and not the highway number. 880 is pretty LA like. On 87 people left their house with no particular idea where they were going in the first place and no clue how to get there and they drive accordingly. 580 is where the east bay commuters are, they get down to business. 680 is wall to wall road rage and poor life choices.
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Everyone’s in a hurry and they’ve mostly got nowhere to go in the Bay Area.

As a bonus, you can sit on CA-24 and watch BART trains hustle past you while you sit there and ponder exactly how you came to live in Concord.
 
derg said:
I like a good theme park and have the loot for it. The mad people can hug a nut as far as I’m concerned! :)
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You have an “Annual Passholder” sticker on your Tesla, don’t you?

But in all seriousness, it’s a fun place, but I cringe when adults make it their entire personality. Gives me real “Peter Pan complex” vibes.
 
derg said:
I like a good theme park and have the loot for it. The mad people can hug a nut as far as I’m concerned! :)
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“To declare oneself a Disney fan in adulthood is to profess to being nothing less than an uncritical bubblehead ensconced in one’s own privilege, suspended in a state of permanent adolescence, raised on a diet of wasp-waisted princesses and talking-animal sidekicks and dancing candelabras, refusing to acknowledge the grim reality that dreams really don’t come true.”

Sounds pretty good to me!!!
 
Toobdrvr said:
“To declare oneself a Disney fan in adulthood is to profess to being nothing less than an uncritical bubblehead ensconced in one’s own privilege, suspended in a state of permanent adolescence, raised on a diet of wasp-waisted princesses and talking-animal sidekicks and dancing candelabras, refusing to acknowledge the grim reality that dreams really don’t come true.”

Sounds pretty good to me!!!
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Right? One day park hopper at DL, get a snout full of beer at CA Adventure then hit space mountain? That’s a party.

And it’s all adult so no crying and we get to skip fantasyland and the ridiculous princess stuff.

Ha!
 
JordanD said:
You have an “Annual Passholder” sticker on your Tesla, don’t you?

But in all seriousness, it’s a fun place, but I cringe when adults make it their entire personality. Gives me real “Peter Pan complex” vibes.
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I don’t.

I really don’t go very often maybe once every few years.

I’m not obsessive about the characters at all, I just like theme parks.

Oh no, overburdened parents think I’m weird because I’m in line at Soarin’ eating a deep fried burrito and I’m not dragging a caravan of disinterested kids around…

Condolences! :)
 
Toobdrvr said:
“To declare oneself a Disney fan in adulthood is to profess to being nothing less than an uncritical bubblehead ensconced in one’s own privilege, suspended in a state of permanent adolescence, raised on a diet of wasp-waisted princesses and talking-animal sidekicks and dancing candelabras, refusing to acknowledge the grim reality that dreams really don’t come true.”

Sounds pretty good to me!!!
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To be an adult in America is to constantly • on people for their hobbies because they're not your hobbies.
 
Skåning said:
The PNW has the unequivocal worst drivers in the country
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A-damn-men

Driving speed limit or slower in the “passing lane” (or ‘fast lane’ as they call it), inability to merge or get up to highway speed on the on ramp, and you’d think growing up in the rain, they’d know how to handle it.

I want to get a dash cam and start a “Washington’s Worst Drivers” YouTube channel.
 
derg said:
Right? One day park hopper at DL, get a snout full of beer at CA Adventure then hit space mountain? That’s a party.

And it’s all adult so no crying and we get to skip fantasyland and the ridiculous princess stuff.

Ha!
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IN!!!

Peter Pan and Mr. Toad rides are pretty awesome. Just sayin…
 
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