A pilot has been indicted for allegedly threatening to shoot the captain if the flight was diverted

Murdoughnut said:
But also 21-million missions without a success. And since no passenger ever assumes a pilot can be armed, there's not really much of a deterrence benefit.
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My issue with the program is that I don’t think it added much at all to cockpit security, but it did add extra tasks to the participating pilots.

One of the most conscientious, careful pilots I ever flew with accidentally left his non-descript box in a toilet stall. It’s just adding additional responsibility to a job that already requires a lot, and with much tangible benefit.

Also, I think calling them “missions” may be a bit telling.
 
MikeD said:
Don’t get me wrong, there are FFDOs who are fine….likely a very large number of them. But those, as have been mentioned, are the low key ones who will make mention of their status when it’s required, and that’s it. Other than that, you wouldn’t know them from Adam, and they don’t advertise anything, or make cockpit (or even cabin) combat action plans (have heard that before), or anything else that is highlighting what is supposed to be a status that should otherwise be unknown to anyone else.

Unfortunately, these aren’t the ones who get attention…..it’s the ones who highlight themselves in the negative ways, who do.
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The problem with the notion of the “Good guy with a gun” is that no one knows they’re there (if they’re doing it right).
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
No way. I have a CCW and have zero desire to be FFDO. Not gonna lug a weapon around at work. Not to mention, the amount of international I do and god forbid I forget one day and take the gun to Mexico.

No thanks
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I don’t know what your training regimen is with your CCW but the FFDO program is great training that you would spend thousands of dollars for on civilian courses. I know. I’ve spent it. I don’t care if you go all the way through the course and drop out so you don’t have to carry a weapon on trips, it’s worth your time if you CCW to get that training on the government’s dime.

Happy to send you a list of instructor’s that come through California a few times a year and some other courses around the country to buy into if you’d rather spend the money.
 
Richman said:
These conversations are exhausting. All I want to do is fly to the layover, change my clothes (which do not include shorts or New Balance), eat my $24 club sammich from the computer generated named restaurant in the lobby, go up to my room, and expire for 12 hours.
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Allbirds and Haggar slacks? :)
 
JordanD said:
I pretty much quit using delivery apps. I've had multiple times in the last year where they either never find a driver, the driver straight up just never goes to the restaurant, or they pick up my order and drive to the opposite end of town (probably double dipping delivery apps) and it shows up cold. Or when the driver finally shows up to the restaurant, tells me the restaurant doesn't actually do Doordash, then the app passes it on from driver to driver forcing me to cancel the order and still charging me for it. The majority of the time it works, but the one or two times I spend what inevitably ends up being $35+40 for a an $18 entree and it doesn't show up makes me hesitant to keep doing it.
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I had something like this in MSP during COVID.

Ordered some food, which should have taken 40 minutes.

40…45…60….75…120

By then I was starving because it had been a number of hours, I was out of time because I had to head to the airport so I cancelled the order. The service said something about it should be arriving in the next 45 minutes (total elapsed time was almost 3 hrs at this point) and how they would still charge me because of a variety of stupid reasons.

I LIKE the concept of delivery but I generally only use it at home from particular restaurants and very rarely on the road.
 
knot4u said:
You seem to lean pretty far left unapologetically based on what I've read, it's not a stretch for me to assume you'd rather the general public didn't have guns. Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me why people should have guns.
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Tired, dead argument.

My brother is probably left of Noam Chomsky, literally has an arsenal to hold off the Russian Army (which admittedly isn't saying much these days) and has weird fantasies about MealTeam Six rolling through his neighborhood with the misconception that everyone is cowering under their beds with lattes, disarmed.

And yes, that's in California. And he has tactical training. And yes I worry about him because he's not alone with these feelings.
 
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Richman said:
I eat out a lot, mostly small spots. The delivery drivers are almost universally rude and demanding. The restaurants themselves are getting get up with them.
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www.latimes.com

Don't pre-tip on delivery? Don't expect your food quickly, DoorDash warns

DoorDash couriers can choose not to accept lower-paying orders — and the company thinks customers should know that before leaving off the tip.
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Ahh, so "pre tip" even though the driving might deliver your burrito cold, and to the wrong address because he wasn't being careful...
 
Richman said:
I eat out a lot, mostly small spots. The delivery drivers are almost universally rude and demanding. The restaurants themselves are getting get up with them.
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I liked the old paradigm where your choices for delivery were pizza or Chinese and it was delivered by a 19 year old kid in a 15 year old Civic who actually worked for the restaurant, would flout any and all traffic laws to get your food there still hot, and was available pretty much any time of day and night.

Now you’ve got ostensibly more choices but actually everyone closes the kitchen at 8 and if your order does actually go through from doordash/Uber eats it sits on the app service shelf getting cold and congealed, and then there’s still a 50/50 chance that it gets delivered to the wrong side of Renton airport at 0200 (seen it happen). Oh and by the way, even with the absurd delivery charges the app bros get they are still gouging the restaurant too and making a tough business even tougher. And you have to be pretty • to make me have sympathy for the average restaurant owner.
 
Roger Roger said:
I liked the old paradigm where your choices for delivery were pizza or Chinese and it was delivered by a 19 year old kid in a 15 year old Civic who actually worked for the restaurant, would flout any and all traffic laws to get your food there still hot, and was available pretty much any time of day and night.

Now you’ve got ostensibly more choices but actually everyone closes the kitchen at 8 and if your order does actually go through from doordash/Uber eats it sits on the app service shelf getting cold and congealed, and then there’s still a 50/50 chance that it gets delivered to the wrong side of Renton airport at 0200 (seen it happen). Oh and by the way, even with the absurd delivery charges the app bros get they are still gouging the restaurant too and making a tough business even tougher. And you have to be pretty • to make me have sympathy for the average restaurant owner.
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When at home I try to frequent local family owned restaurants, If I want take out often times I'll just walk in and wait. I've used the delivery services before but I found it expensive and unpleasant. Remember when Dominos had the "thirty minutes or it's free"? "AVOID THE NOID!".

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gt0uaxf-Uo
 
derg said:
Tired, dead argument.

My brother is probably left of Noam Chomsky, literally has an arsenal to hold off the Russian Army (which admittedly isn't saying much these days) and has weird fantasies about MealTeam Six rolling through his neighborhood with the misconception that everyone is cowering under their beds with lattes, disarmed.

And yes, that's in California. And he has tactical training. And yes I worry about him because he's not alone with these feelings.
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People keep tossing around the word "arsenal". Just curious, when does a small collection turn into an arsenal? Because I asked the question I'll give the point I'd call a collection an arsenal, if you own dozens of the same model of rifle, tens of thousands of rounds and have a group of friends that are all trained to use them and know where to come pick up their gun that's an arsenal. A dude with a couple of neutered ARs and a thousand rounds is an enthusiast. We can also talk about the dilution of the word "Nazi" in the last decade, especially considering current global events. It became very popular and easy to portray anyone on the right as a nazi. Now we have another group with basically the same ideals as actual nazis and there are worldwide protests supporting them. I'm not saying you are, I'm just saying the dilution of language is dangerous.
 
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derg said:
I had something like this in MSP during COVID.

Ordered some food, which should have taken 40 minutes.

40…45…60….75…120

By then I was starving because it had been a number of hours, I was out of time because I had to head to the airport so I cancelled the order. The service said something about it should be arriving in the next 45 minutes (total elapsed time was almost 3 hrs at this point) and how they would still charge me because of a variety of stupid reasons.

I LIKE the concept of delivery but I generally only use it at home from particular restaurants and very rarely on the road.
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The road is the only time I do it, except on the extremely rare occasion I’ve been drinking and don’t have food in the house to cook up. My drunken creations are the best.
 
knot4u said:
People keep tossing around the word "arsenal". Just curious, when does a small collection turn into an arsenal? Because I asked the question I'll give the point I'd call a collection an arsenal, if you own dozens of the same model of rifle, tens of thousands of rounds and have a group of friends that are all trained to use them and know where to come pick up their gun that's an arsenal. A dude with a couple of neutered ARs and a thousand rounds is an enthusiast. We can also talk about the dilution of the word "Nazi" in the last decade, especially considering current global events. It became very popular and easy to portray anyone on the right as a nazi. Now we have another group with basically the same ideals as actual nazis and there are worldwide protests supporting them. I'm not saying you are, I'm just saying the dilution of language is dangerous.
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I don't know if I'm able to help you with what you're after.

He certainly takes the @jtrain609 angle on gun ownership:

"MAGA hates you and at their first justification to harm you, they will"

I'm not saying I prescribe to that, but that's his perspective. I'd have you call and talk to him about it but it wouldn't go well.
 
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