Jimmy_Norton
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How much would missing log books from 1971 to 2000 detract from the value of an airplane? The prop and engine has been overhauled since then.
$75k to spend
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bimmerphile
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not sure, although I'd immediately become skeptical of the owner and what I was actually getting myself into.
Nark
Macho Superpilot
A friend was asking the same thing for an arrow.
Its take away 15-25%, but that's a number I pulled out of my ass. If you really interested, you can pull the 337's from the FAA. I takes about a week If I recall.
The problem though, is that a gear up, or engine replacement due to a prop strike won't show up. It doesn't require paperwork to the FAA to replace an engine or skin, because at the end of the day, it's not a major alteration. Your GD right it needs to go in the logbook, but as you stated where are they covering that period?
I'd say, if it suits your needs, and not looking to flip it in a few years, go to a pre-buy.
Ownership is awesome. I love going to hangar whenever I'm able to, a know that it has full tanks the seat belts are crossed.
Its take away 15-25%, but that's a number I pulled out of my ass. If you really interested, you can pull the 337's from the FAA. I takes about a week If I recall.
The problem though, is that a gear up, or engine replacement due to a prop strike won't show up. It doesn't require paperwork to the FAA to replace an engine or skin, because at the end of the day, it's not a major alteration. Your GD right it needs to go in the logbook, but as you stated where are they covering that period?
I'd say, if it suits your needs, and not looking to flip it in a few years, go to a pre-buy.
Ownership is awesome. I love going to hangar whenever I'm able to, a know that it has full tanks the seat belts are crossed.
Roger Roger
Bottom of the list
Replacing a skin is a typically a major repair and should be documented on a form 337.
Nark
Macho Superpilot
Exactly. Should...
z987k
Well-Known Member
If you're ok with a tailwheel, there's quite a few M5-210's for sale usually at a pretty good price for what you're getting. Downside being the Continental IO-360, which isn't much loved by anyone. High likelihood of a crank AD. But all of the Maule's with the exception of the M4-180V are 4 seats whether it's a super old M4 with the O-300 on it or a brand new M7 with the IO-540 on it.
Jimmy_Norton
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I'd rather not get a tailwheel aircraft, for a few reasons. I also forgot that the Maule family are fabric covered. If we get an airplane, we're most likely going to have to keep it outside for the first few years, and I heard that is really bad for fabric airplanes.
z987k
Well-Known Member
The fuselage is. The wings are metal. And it's really not, no one uses cotton and hasn't for probably 40+ years.
The most fabric covered concentration of aircraft probably on the planet is Alaska, where virtually everyone keeps them outside year round.
I'll admit I'm a bit of a Maule fan, though I've not owned one. But they do still make new ones AND support all of the aircraft they've made since the beginning. The factory also owns a lot of the STCs, and they're all free. Really good factory support according to my IA that owns 2.
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Jimmy_Norton
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Oh, ok. That still leave the tailwheel issue though.
bimmerphile
MCAS Meat Inhibition Logic
there are nosedraggers out there. mt7 235 has a lycoming 540 in it if I remember correctly
z987k
Well-Known Member
There's an MXT7-180C with an IFR panel and aux tanks for sale for 65k on barnstormers right now.
The T denotes nose draggers. The C is constant speed prop.
The good news is when you come to your senses and want a tailwheel, you can call them and order the parts and paperwork from the factory.
There's a wrecked one with 235HP, so they do exist.
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bimmerphile
MCAS Meat Inhibition Logic
...in civil air patrol colors?
EIR
It's 5 o'clock somewhere
So, anyone know of a good 182 for sale for $100k-ish or less?
I came across this on Beechtalk.com.
We are selling/trade our great Cessna 182G
.
I thought I would post here if someone was looking to scale down and might be interested in a simple trade or purchase.
It is our family aircraft currently and comes out of annual this week.
$92k is the current listed asking price. Fresh annual.
I am ok with retail to retail or wholesale to wholesale or?
N2362R
1964 Cessna 182G
4800TT approx
1480 smoh
50 hours since top 6 new Superior steel cylinders.
Empty Weight: 1824.40
Gross Weight: 2800
Beautiful paint and interior.
Horton STOL
80 gallon tanks
Good clean air frame. No firewall or significant damage noted.
Shoulder belt restrain system.
New Style Yokes.
New Sportys high speed air vents
Tinted windows.
Clean nice headliner.
Nice glareshield.
Windows are in great shape.
Opening pilot side window.
Storage console between front seats.
Avidyne IFD540
KX155
Garmin CDI
STEC 55X with electric trim. (Just overhauled by STEC)
Garmin G5
Lynx 9000 ADSB out
JPI EDM 800 Engine Monitor
USB Chargers
Music input jack
Lynx adsb wx overlays on the IFD540 w traffic. Beautiful.
Also weather will overlay on IFD100 app. Photos attached.
Really nice avionics package.
Clean title and paid for aircraft. 130kts @ 12-13 gal an hour.
Borescope photos look great with the new cylinders. Savvy Report
card program also. Just a nice turn key 182 with some great avionics.
All trades can be considered.
Thanks !!
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Jimmy_Norton
Well-Known Member
I came across this on Beechtalk.com.
We are selling/trade our great Cessna 182G
.
I thought I would post here if someone was looking to scale down and might be interested in a simple trade or purchase.
It is our family aircraft currently and comes out of annual this week.
$92k is the current listed asking price. Fresh annual.
I am ok with retail to retail or wholesale to wholesale or?
N2362R
1964 Cessna 182G
4800TT approx
1480 smoh
50 hours since top 6 new Superior steel cylinders.
Empty Weight: 1824.40
Gross Weight: 2800
Beautiful paint and interior.
Horton STOL
80 gallon tanks
Good clean air frame. No firewall or significant damage noted.
Shoulder belt restrain system.
New Style Yokes.
New Sportys high speed air vents
Tinted windows.
Clean nice headliner.
Nice glareshield.
Windows are in great shape.
Opening pilot side window.
Storage console between front seats.
Avidyne IFD540
KX155
Garmin CDI
STEC 55X with electric trim. (Just overhauled by STEC)
Garmin G5
Lynx 9000 ADSB out
JPI EDM 800 Engine Monitor
USB Chargers
Music input jack
Lynx adsb wx overlays on the IFD540 w traffic. Beautiful.
Also weather will overlay on IFD100 app. Photos attached.
Really nice avionics package.
Clean title and paid for aircraft. 130kts @ 12-13 gal an hour.
Borescope photos look great with the new cylinders. Savvy Report
card program also. Just a nice turn key 182 with some great avionics.
All trades can be considered.
Thanks !!
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Interior Top.jpg [ 4.02 MiB | Viewed 1239 times ]
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Report Card N2362R (1).pdf [468.08 KiB]
Thanks for that. Signing up for beechtalk now
Cessnaflyer
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
The school I went to was all Beech for the majority of the fleet. The Sundowners were the most comfortable airplanes with a ton of available fuel. Doesn't go anywhere fast but it was a nice ride. Our commercial stuff was then in F33As and the only thing nice about that was you felt cool with a retractable gear. Not comfortable at all.
killbilly
Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens
Flew a Musketeer once. Thought it was a nice, very-solid-feeling airplane, if a bit truck-like. Only Beech product I've ever flown.
Cessnaflyer
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
There's aircraft from the 60's still flying with the school now. Only if everything was built to last like a Beechcraft.
trafficinsight
Well-Known Member
Logs are half the value of the airplane.
If you're planning on keeping it for a long time then maybe that's a good deal or maybe not but just never expect to sell it for what other airplanes sell for and expect to have problems selling it if/when you do.
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Jimmy_Norton
Well-Known Member
It's between a 10 to 25% price penalty from what I have heard from some friends in the know. The owner has all the 337's and AD's from before 2000, so it should be at best a 10% penalty.
z987k
Well-Known Member
You need to make sure he or the FAA have a copy of all the 337s and Stcs or it's as if they did the stc but never did the paperwork. Which means the paperwork needs to be done again.