757 A/T failure

tcco94 said:
Yes, we know it’s on the VFR charts… no one said it wasn’t? …that was my point…we were never even talking about VFR charts in the first place. We brought up Jepp plates and charts then when everyone said it wasn’t on them, we brought up VFR charts. Hope the 3rd explanation makes sense to you.
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It doesn’t. I think you’re just arguing to argue.
 
MikeD said:
Once upon a time, you’d often run into pilots who forget where they came from. They’re in the big leagues now, and have ram dumped anything regarding VFR, GA, flying for fun etc.

Nowdays, more and more you find pilots that haven’t forgotten where they came from as it comes to this, because with how they came up in the career, they were never there for any appreciable amount of time in their career to begin with.

Sad to see, really.
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I spent plenty of time in the GA world building time.
I like my job, quite a bit. But it’s a job now. When my commute blocks in I can’t be bothered to really care about anything to do with airplanes. People who get butthurt that there’s an RNAV Visual into LGA now instead of “fly to these random water tanks” need to find something else to get excited about.
 
JordanD said:
I spent plenty of time in the GA world building time.
I like my job, quite a bit. But it’s a job now. When my commute blocks in I can’t be bothered to really care about anything to do with airplanes. People who get butthurt that there’s an RNAV Visual into LGA now instead of “fly to these random water tanks” need to find something else to get excited about.
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A number of people spent no time ever in GA, and thus, have nothing from there to appreciate or miss. Their loss, I guess, even though it’s likely unrealized at the end of the day anyway. Even though I only do 121 as a part time second job, I still try to make the 99% boredom of that job somewhat interesting if I can.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Yes, I see the VETERAN lanyards frequently.
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Seems a growing number of civvie’s these days spent no time there either besides a proverbial touch and go.

GA is fun. And by GA, I don’t just mean Sunday flyer private owner or renter; but the myriad and wide variety of General aviation work and such that there is out there. Some interesting stuff.
 
MikeD said:
Seems a growing number of civvie’s these days spent no time there either besides a proverbial touch and go.
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True/fair.

MikeD said:
GA is fun. And by GA, I don’t just mean Sunday flyer private owner or renter; but the myriad and wide variety of General aviation work and such that there is out there. Some interesting stuff.
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Indeed. I actually miss it, but the airplane is several states away and as established elsewhere it's a little too much like work (and a lot too expensive) for me to want to fly it on a day off. One engine, fixed gear, low and slow, I'm in.
 
MikeD said:
Seems a growing number of civvie’s these days spent no time there either besides a proverbial touch and go.

GA is fun. And by GA, I don’t just mean Sunday flyer private owner or renter; but the myriad and wide variety of General aviation work and such that there is out there. Some interesting stuff.
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I wonder how much of it there still is. I can see drones replacing a lot of the survey jobs. Other than that it’s really just instructing and it seems like you have to go to a big pilot mill to get an appreciable amount of hours.
 
JordanD said:
I wonder how much of it there still is. I can see drones replacing a lot of the survey jobs. Other than that it’s really just instructing and it seems like you have to go to a big pilot mill to get an appreciable amount of hours.
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Diver driving, if you can get it, but those jobs, somehow, are even more sparse than when we were at that level.
 
JordanD said:
I wonder how much of it there still is. I can see drones replacing a lot of the survey jobs. Other than that it’s really just instructing and it seems like you have to go to a big pilot mill to get an appreciable amount of hours.
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Drones are indeed that new tech that is able to replace a number of aerial work from manned aircraft. Survey for mapping, survey for fire scene surveillance such as wildland fires, traffic work (and highway cams). Etc

Many police depts that could never afford an air unit with a helo, are easily able to now have small drones with many trained operators, that can already be on scene and ready to go to provide aerial eyes versus waiting for a helo to arrive, and at a percent of the helo cost. For PDs with helos, the drones can handle routine on scene stuff leaving the helo either on ground to respond to other things or handling other calls the drones can’t (yet) perform.

Ag flying would be interesting, but it’s kind of a niche. Corporate opening more and more than before, but while often very nice equipment, the lifestyle can vary widely.

So yes, your point is indeed a valid one. And may be getting more and more so as time goes on.

Autothrust Blue said:
True/fair.


Indeed. I actually miss it, but the airplane is several states away and as established elsewhere it's a little too much like work (and a lot too expensive) for me to want to fly it on a day off. One engine, fixed gear, low and slow, I'm in.
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I can certainly see that. It would be like commuting to go fly a GA aircraft.

To your last point, USBP used to have a ton of Piper PA-18 Super Cubs as patrol planes, up to about 2009. I remember there were four or so at Tucson. These things were immaculate, all reworked with updated avionics, and had all been just newly fabric recovered and painted, just before they were all flown to ABQ and placed on the auction block for sale by GSA. They were beautiful birds.

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JordanD said:
I spent plenty of time in the GA world building time.
I like my job, quite a bit. But it’s a job now. When my commute blocks in I can’t be bothered to really care about anything to do with airplanes. People who get butthurt that there’s an RNAV Visual into LGA now instead of “fly to these random water tanks” need to find something else to get excited about.
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Your dream Delta job became another job? How many majors did you quit just to land a “it’s just a job.”

Lol yikes



I’ve been a one twenty weenie since ‘07 and couldn’t imagine doing anything else. I love my job. I don’t even think of it as a job. I still have that same spark as I did when I first started.

I feel bad for any of you that now only see this as a job like anything else.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
I’ve been a one twenty weenie since ‘07 and couldn’t imagine doing anything else.
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Is that because you haven’t actually done anything else and have nothing to compare 121 flying to?

Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Your dream Delta job became another job? How many majors did you quit just to land a “it’s just a job.”
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At some point you have to realize that you’re coming across like a guy who gets rejected by a girl and writes her number in bathroom stalls.
 
MikeD said:
To your last point, USBP used to have a ton of Piper PA-18 Super Cubs as patrol planes, up to about 2009. I remember there were four or so at Tucson. These things were immaculate, all reworked with updated avionics, and had all been just newly fabric recovered and painted, just before they were all flown to ABQ and placed on the auction block for sale by GSA. They were beautiful birds.
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for some reason this comes to mind -
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zmiller4 said:
Is that because you haven’t actually done anything else and have nothing to compare 121 flying to?



At some point you have to realize that you’re coming across like a guy who gets rejected by a girl and writes her number in bathroom stalls.
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Incorrect. I’ve had 3 paycheck jobs before 121.

Pizza delivery post high school, an Evergreen Airlines flight ops internship during college, and then after graduating, a Structural Engineering job for a defense contractor in DC.


As for the last part, nope. Just funny seeing people chase their dream job, only to see them realize it’s like any other job when they get it. But guys from only one airline here seems to act like some untouchable pedestal.
 
MikeD said:
Drones are indeed that new tech that is able to replace a number of aerial work from manned aircraft. Survey for mapping, survey for fire scene surveillance such as wildland fires, traffic work (and highway cams). Etc
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I’m sure there isn’t any of it left now but I flew traffic watch along with instructing back in the day. Flying circles over Kansas City at rush hour with two radio reporters aboard. It was a blast and a great way to build time.
 
arkflyr said:
I’m sure there isn’t any of it left now but I flew traffic watch along with instructing back in the day. Flying circles over Kansas City at rush hour with two radio reporters aboard. It was a blast and a great way to build time.
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Flew traffic as my first flying job back in the early 90s. At that time, there were three traffic watch planes over metro PHX, and five news helicopters. Today, there are no traffic planes, as it’s all done by traffic cameras. And only two news helos, with three stations sharing one of them. Even with that, news people can deploy onto a scene and have their own drone that….barring any TFR at a given news scene…can do the same job for much cheaper.

Times sure have changed.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
for some reason this comes to mind -
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The Dodge Charger E units. Good cars!

The Super Cubs were on the auction block and sold for what would probably be pennies on the dollar nearly. A few county Sheriff’s Offices got some of the ones that didn’t make it to auction for $1 transfer fee. Hopefully they took good care of them.
 
MikeD said:
The Dodge Charger E units. Good cars!

The Super Cubs were on the auction block and sold for what would probably be pennies on the dollar nearly. A few county Sheriff’s Offices got some of the ones that didn’t make it to auction for $1 transfer fee. Hopefully they took good care of them.
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I mean the titles on that model are the real "ha ha" here and if I had one of those Cubs I might have put exactly those titles on them too! :D
 
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