Amazon Air MIA Runway Excursion

[ahw01]

I hated seeing the guy from the Taking Off series go down this path of old white guys who want to be relevant. Despite having the most punchable looking face I've seen in a long time, he otherwise seems like a good dude.

Why do they always have to use photos of their perplexed looking faces?

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Needs pepto

 

[Minuteman]

Mods I'm partly to blame here: can we split-off the YouTube personality chat from this thread that's nominally about an accident where people died?

Thanks in advance.

 

[charlie1017]

He’s about the only one I can stomach anymore. He puts out a good, knowledgeable summary.

Magnar Nordal (retired ATR Captain) has a nice, down to earth and nicely technical channel too. Worth checking out for those curious about the ATR and its crashes related to icing.

 

[Roger Roger]

I saw this data pop up on Reddit, pretty interesting:

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I have seen a fairly common mistake that can make the 767-300 suddenly speed up when you’re starting the approach (FLCH to VNAV without intervening/opening speed window).

Very easily fixed by experienced crews (open speed window after selecting VNAV).

Very curious to see how this all turns out.

If that’s legit, it answers my question about how far outside the norm the reported 180 knots at the threshold would be. Those folks were cooking, whether due to being unstable, wind shear, or other possible reasons remains to be seen.

 

[NovemberEcho]

If it was wind shear I’d think we’d hear tower issue it assuming the LLWAS was working

 

[Boris Badenov]

If it was wind shear I’d think we’d hear tower issue it assuming the LLWAS was working

AFAICT so far, Tower didn't issue any winds at all, which is kind of odd.

That said, c'mon. These guys clearly overcooked it for whatever reason(s) and then missed about four chances to go around and try again. Cue CQ12 2027 where we somehow get ourselves way too fast/high for a stabilized approach...

 

[Pilot Fighter]

AFAICT so far, Tower didn't issue any winds at all, which is kind of odd.

That said, c'mon. These guys clearly overcooked it for whatever reason(s) and then missed about four chances to go around and try again. Cue CQ12 2027 where we somehow get ourselves way too fast/high for a stabilized approach...

Truth is, I thought it mattered
I thought that music mattered
I thought that TDZ’s mattered
I thought that glideslope mattered.
Not compared to how people matter


We'll be singin'
When we're winnin'
We'll be singin'

I get knocked down
But I get up again
You're never gonna keep me down
I get knocked down
But I get up again
You're never gonna keep me down

 

[Boris Badenov]

The fact that that (let's be fair, extremely catchy) song from a bunch of wildly disaffected gutter-punk Anarchists became a drinking anthem for the very people they were attempting to make fun of is Peak 90s, and I love it.

 

[Pilot Fighter]

O I’ll

The fact that that (let's be fair, extremely catchy) song from a bunch of wildly disaffected gutter-punk Anarchists became a drinking anthem for the very people they were attempting to make fun of is Peak 90s, and I love it.

I know their backstory.

 

[Boris Badenov]

I know their backstory.

Oh, I assumed it. You hung out at Mag Bar, FFS.