Am I nuts?

RORO said:
I don't think its a bad idea to leave. Delta is a great company but nothing beats living in a base, especially when it's a city you want to live in.

Maybe someone at UAL can chime in with what seniority you'd finish your career there versus staying at DAL to help you evaluate what you're giving up.
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A 30 year old hired late November at UA will retire as a 900ish number as of now. They’d be in widebody captain range for their last 9 years.

And wow… just to show how the hiring spree changes things… it’ll take a new hire today 10 years to reach the seniority it took me 4 years to get.
 
Ian_J said:
A 30 year old hired late November at UA will retire as a 900ish number as of now. They’d be in widebody captain range for their last 9 years.

And wow… just to show how the hiring spree changes things… it’ll take a new hire today 10 years to reach the seniority it took me 4 years to get.
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What seniority is the 777/787 JR CA United?
 
Seems like the time to get hired by the legacies was about 5 years ago. Now there’s just too many young pilots who would be ahead of you on the list for the entirety of your career.

The time to get hired by SWA was 2002. 😏 Kidding… mostly. SWA was a young group so they won’t hit the big retirement wave for a few more years.
 
ZapBrannigan said:
Seems like the time to get hired by the legacies was about 5 years ago. Now there’s just too many young pilots who would be ahead of you on the list for the entirety of your career.

The time to get hired by SWA was 2002. 😏 Kidding… mostly. SWA was a young group so they won’t hit the big retirement wave for a few more years.
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Thats why I would be very cautious of jumping from two very similar carriers just because you like a certain city.
 
HJB said:
Good old 08.. It’s like beaten housewife syndrome…
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Roger Roger said:
That’s when I joined! People (yours truly included) were desperately flinging resumes at every job opportunity for a “part time Baron pilot, full time aircraft manager/office bitch/boss’s automotive detailer, must have 24/7 availability and live in loft above hangar (BYO window AC unit)” job paying $35k in Bumscrew Oklahoma
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You 08’ guys are cute.

When I started in the mid 90s, the competitive minimums were 1500 hours, 500 multi-engine for the privilege of paying $10,000 for your training to fly a 19 seat turboprop with steam gauges, no autopilot, no cockpit door, lav, coffee maker, or FA for about $13,000 per year.

If you wanted to go to one of the premier regionals that didn’t require PFT, like Piedmont or Allegheny flying the Dash 8, then you could up those requirements to 2500 hours total time and 1000+ multi engine.

To build the time I flew cancelled checks 5 nights a week in a Piper Lance or a Bonanza until I was finally able to transition to a Cessna 402 flying Airborne Express stuff. It paid $90 per night, which I thought was the most money anybody could make. I didn’t know how I would spend it all! The commuters were a substantial pay cut after that.

And then, right about the time we grabbed the golden ring and moved up to the majors… BAM! 9/11, age 65, and a 7 year furlough.
 
ZapBrannigan said:
You 08’ guys are cute.

When I started in the mid 90s, the competitive minimums were 1500 hours, 500 multi-engine for the privilege of paying $10,000 for your training to fly a 19 seat turboprop with steam gauges, no autopilot, no cockpit door, lav, coffee maker, or FA for about $13,000 per year.

If you wanted to go to one of the premier regionals that didn’t require PFT, like Piedmont or Allegheny flying the Dash 8, then you could up those requirements to 2500 hours total time and 1000+ multi engine.

To build the time I flew cancelled checks 5 nights a week in a Piper Lance or a Bonanza until I was finally able to transition to a Cessna 402 flying Airborne Express stuff. It paid $90 per night, which I thought was the most money anybody could make. I didn’t know how I would spend it all! The commuters were a substantial pay cut after that.

And then, right about the time we grabbed the golden ring and moved up to the majors… BAM! 9/11, age 65, and a 7 year furlough.
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That would result in a mental runDLL error for half of the major airline pilots today. Please reboot. They couldn’t even fathom half of what you just said. They’ve only heard/read of these things. Not seen it. And certainly, never felt it.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
That would result in a mental runDLL error for half of the major airline pilots today. Please reboot. They couldn’t even fathom half of what you just said. They’ve only heard/read of these things. Not seen it. And certainly, never felt it.
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And that’s a good thing, right? It’s good that the industry is doing well it’s good that new pilots haven’t had to endure crappy times. This is good for them and for the rest of us, right? Right?
 
Ian_J said:
And that’s a good thing, right? It’s good that the industry is doing well it’s good that new pilots haven’t had to endure crappy times. This is good for them and for the rest of us, right? Right?
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Makes them less interesting to talk to though.

"So what did you do before this?"

"E175 at Skywest for 11 months."

"And before that?"

"I was a CFI for about 6 months."

"Oh... so, do you like... stuff? Uh... do you live near the airport?"
 
ZapBrannigan said:
Makes them less interesting to talk to though.

"So what did you do before this?"

"E175 at Skywest for 11 months."

"And before that?"

"I was a CFI for about 6 months."

"Oh... so, do you like... stuff? Uh... do you live near the airport?"
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How do you think they feel? 😜

I swear I’m gonna pistol whip the next person who complains how they got screwed in the continental/United merger.
 
Ian_J said:
And that’s a good thing, right? It’s good that the industry is doing well it’s good that new pilots haven’t had to endure crappy times. This is good for them and for the rest of us, right? Right?
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I absolutely am not a “I had to cheat death flying POS Cherokees so you should too!!!” Person but I do think that when you’ve got someone like the OP and all the 2008 or even 9/11 vets are trying to educate them on history and why they’re crazy, it might be a good idea to listen
 
ZapBrannigan said:
Makes them less interesting to talk to though.

"So what did you do before this?"

"E175 at Skywest for 11 months."

"And before that?"

"I was a CFI for about 6 months."

"Oh... so, do you like... stuff? Uh... do you live near the airport?"
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Probably no more tedious than when I tell the captain for the 100th time about how glad I am not to be spraying glycol on a Learjet tail from a 14’ ladder at 3 AM
 
Roger Roger said:
I absolutely am not a “I had to cheat death flying POS Cherokees so you should too!!!” Person but I do think that when you’ve got someone like the OP and all the 2008 or even 9/11 vets are trying to educate them on history and why they’re crazy, it might be a good idea to listen
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100% agree. What I don’t agree with is the very obvious sick desire from some for new pilots to the industry to suffer.
 
For some reason I’m picturing this thread like this:

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