United AIP

[amorris311]

But not really. Voting remains open for up to THREE MONTHS while they try to negotiate a better deal.

Absolute chaos.

Stay vigilant. My guess is some people will be learning how to fly again.

Probably not your reps though.

 

[MikeD]

Stay vigilant. My guess is some people will be learning how to fly again.

Some people coming back from work release, to Gen Pop at the prison?

 

[amorris311]

Some people coming back from work release, to Gen Pop at the prison?

Something like that.

If I were any of the people that are fielding the emails, phone calls, etc. right now I would be looking for a soft landing. Going back to the line will not be a pleasant experience is my guess.

 

[tcco94]

Let’s be honest … this should have never been presented to any pilot group

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

It’s been awhile, but were you on the council when current voting system was approved? I vaguely remember the presentation. The amount of security they put into this voting seemed to be overkill until the representative discussed all the legal issues and department of labor rules and regulations that they needed to abide by in order to ensure a fair vote.

I can assure anyone that believes people are privy to the vote before it closes, no one is. That system is reliable and free of anyone being able to tamper with it until the vote closes.

I honestly can’t remember if that’s something discussed while I was there. My memory is failing in my old age.

But we definitely always took voting security incredibly serious. The DOL doesn’t play around with this stuff.

 

[SteveC]

... My memory is failing in my old age.
....

I can relate.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Yep, any major vote. Even as an EVP, I couldn’t see any of it. It’s not even done by ALPA. Outside contractors do it and their job is to keep it secure.

After the vote, can they (ALPA reps, MEC, negotiating committee, etc) see individual vote per person? Eg, if pilot John Smith voted yes and Jane Doe voted no?

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

After the vote, can they (ALPA reps, MEC, negotiating committee, etc) see individual vote per person? Eg, if pilot John Smith voted yes and Jane Doe voted no?

Nope! All we got were the total number of votes cast and the final result.

 

[Jimmy_Norton]

Can voters change their votes after they have been submitted? Or will they just start the voting over from zero once another TA is presented?

 

[Baronman]

Can voters change their votes after they have been submitted? Or will they just start the voting over from zero once another TA is presented?

I know the (ALPA) TA i voted on recently, we had the ability to change our vote after it was submitted.

 

[bp]

Can voters change their votes after they have been submitted? Or will they just start the voting over from zero once another TA is presented?

you can change vote up until ballot closes

so if they can’t see vote totals, then i guess the reps took a hint with weeks of nonstop phone calls from angry pilots

 

[nibake]

Let’s be honest … this should have never been presented to any pilot group

I mean, I probably would've been cool with it at my shop :shrug:

 

[roundout]

I mean, I probably would've been cool with it at my shop :shrug:

Uh

 

[Skåning]

I mean, I probably would've been cool with it at my shop :shrug:

Does your airline have Hillary Clinton/Bob Marley/eskimo on the tail?

 

[nibake]

Does your airline have Hillary Clinton/Bob Marley/eskimo on the tail?

It has a big sun on the tail, I know that leaves more than one possibility, but either would explain my comment :stir:

 

[zmiller4]

Does your airline have Hillary Clinton/Bob Marley/eskimo on the tail?

My kid saw an Alaska 737 the last time he was in California (he was just about 4).

It joined the “pie airplane” (United) and the “triangle airplane (delta)…he called it the “daddy airplane” because it “looked like me”. Little dude, I was 37. I may be getting old but not that old.

 

[roundout]

My kid saw an Alaska 737 the last time he was in California (he was just about 4).

It joined the “pie airplane” (United) and the “triangle airplane (delta)…he called it the “daddy airplane” because it “looked like me”. Little dude, I was 37. I may be getting old but not that old.

My MIL has worked for them for almost 30 years. She’s such a good employee they put her picture on the tail.

 

[Rocketman99]

My MIL has worked for them for almost 30 years. She’s such a good employee they put her picture on the tail.

Come on now, everyone knows that's Delta's senior FA on the tail. It was a gesture of goodwill back when they were still airline friends.

 

[roundout]

Come on now, everyone knows that's Delta's senior FA on the tail. It was a gesture of goodwill back when they were still airline friends.

half my statement is actually true. you can decide which half.

 

[bLizZuE]

Survey is out. Garbage questions. G.I. = G.O.