Cptnchia
Dissatisfied Customer
Those of us who have to fly with these milqetoast individuals, that's who.
In-house Delta Job Fair, October 20/21 2017
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The application only gets you the interview. The interview gets you the job. I'm not advocating for having someone else fill out your application, but in the grand scheme of things I don't really think it's a big deal. Is someone a poor candidate because they needed interview prep to get the nod? I don't really see the difference.
Cptnchia
Dissatisfied Customer
If they have to rely on someone else to fill out an application, what does that say to their motivation to the job? Similarly, are they going to need help filling out the logbook or ASAP report?
Interview prep to polish you up, is nowhere near to inability to accomplish the most basic of job aspirations, completing an application by yourself.
JetDoc
Pit Bull Wrangler
No, it's not pathetic, it's desperation as the see their spouses earning literally pennies on the dollar for doing the same exact job with the carrot being yanked away every time it seems to get close. While I would never condone some of the comments on the DPR page, I can understand why a lot of people react emotionally and I would be hesitant to judge another person or their reaction unless you have walked in their shoes. All these people want is an opportunity and they are continuously having it be denied by algorithms and internet connection speeds.
Hiboglossi
The Most Depressing Person
Like it or not, that is the way it works when there is that much competition for an opportunity. Delta doesn't need to hire as many pilots as want to work there, and they reserve the right to use whatever application and interview processes they deem appropriate to determine who the best candidates are. Major Airline recruiting is not tee-ball. Not everyone gets a trophy.
If posting such ill-advised comments is how these pilots handle frustration with their career progress, I question whether they are mature enough to transport paying passengers or operate complex machines in the first place. Certainly I feel bad for anyone whose career is sabotaged by remarks their spouse made, but then if you have your spouse fill out application forms for you rather than having the gumption to do it yourself, you are inviting that kind of situation to happen.
That's not an accurate number and they're not a source.
HRDiva
Well-Known Member
Really.
This is true.
I know as captain, I didn't quite realize that there was this much psychology involved.
Oftentimes I have to unwrap copilots from around the axle, slow some down, speed some up, chat with some about the "airline isn't an airline isn't an airline, and the procedure differences you're complaining about here in comparison to where you were would be the exact same bitchfest you'd have at any airline", and other things.
My buddy loves to look for people who are positive, quick to adapt, "know their audience" and self-starting and he's also tired of singing "Why does it happen? Because it happens, roll the bones".
And that was your Rush moment for Sunday, September 17th, 2017.
Tell them to stop, please.
Bear
Well-Known Member
Are these considered
at http://fapa.aero/hiringhistorymonth.asp ?
phill1174
Well-Known Member
I'm sorry but you really have to be a lazy sack of crap to not be able to complete a job application yourself. I wouldn't worry much about these type of people. If they can't fill out the application themself i'm guessing it's likely they won't go the extra mile to get a degree or make themself stand out.
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Well, let him know that he's free to beat it as there are plenty of people I know that would like to do the job that he's unthankful for that can't get the opportunity.
Keywords are "Bye" and "Felicia"
LOL. That still isn't a reliable source.
falconvalley
Absentee Dad of the OOTSK, Runner, Cat Frustrator
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HRDiva
Well-Known Member
No, that's Delta's problem just like when my husband shook his head as Delta hired some very questionable people from his former shop.
thevideographer
Well-Known Member
Is it not okay to have a problem with the culture at the place you work and wish it were different? I don't work there but what if there is an issue with the culture that will never be corrected if anybody who doesn't exactly fit the mold gets rejected? There is a difference between being someone who bitches about everything and having a justified complaint.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
One day it's gonna make for an awkward interview...
"So tell us about your Habitat for Humanity volunteer work?"
"My what?"
"Your work for Habitat for Humanity"
"It says that?"
"Yes, this right here" [holds up application to show pilot]
"Well I'm gonna have to talk to my wife about that......"
"So tell us about your Habitat for Humanity volunteer work?"
"My what?"
"Your work for Habitat for Humanity"
"It says that?"
"Yes, this right here" [holds up application to show pilot]
"Well I'm gonna have to talk to my wife about that......"
If everyone is hiring, it's probably easier to find employment at a shop that fits your expectations than expecting the other X to 15,000 to press pause and make the new shop more like your last shop.
Plus, I really don't want to sit through another "if the airlines just did minimum interval takeoffs, we wouldn't have to sit and wait 25 minutes to takeoff in DCA" or "We had jetway trades!" I prefer to go to work, accomplish the tasks expected, have a great time with minimal "Feats of Strength" and "Airing of Grievances" because to some people, Festivus is err'day.