Army retires the Kiowa Warrior

Yknow, if they'd let me, I'd serve AND fly helos for the Army. In that order.

The fact that I'm 43 is a problem...


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tattooguy21 said:
Tacops better get to work

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Yeah were suddenly gonna remedy 20 years of underinvestment and a complete lack of training into a robust RF capability....

I'll hold my breath until the IPs want to shut up about all the tactics they don't know and let TACOPS drive the train on how to employ the aircraft.
 
Lawman said:
Yeah were suddenly gonna remedy 20 years of underinvestment and a complete lack of training into a robust RF capability....

I'll hold my breath until the IPs want to shut up about all the tactics they don't know and let TACOPS drive the train on how to employ the aircraft.
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Dream the dream tiger.

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deadstick said:
Not anytime soon. The bloodbath in the GOM has increased the supply of rw pilots. Much of the oil is staying in the ground. The companies know where alot of it is, but they want to pump it at $75/bbl and not $40.
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Bloodbath is an understatement. I've seen guys with 2000+ competing for instructor jobs just so they can stay in the seat. I'd hate to be a unemployed under 500 (or even 1000) hour pilot stuck in rotor wing aviation right now.
 
tattooguy21 said:
Three years ago I would have agreed with you regarding the job opportunities. Now? I've got three regional airlines hounding guys with over 750 hours (so literally any pilot who's deployed) for their rotary transition program.

LCT positions all over the globe, to include places like Honolulu, Fairbanks, and the higher paying overseas jobs. Contracting positions paying out over $200k with literally everything in day to day life included (housing, phone, food, car, insurance, WiFi, gasoline, insurance, etc), $100,800 of which is tax free if you follow the rules. (Yes, these numbers are correct and not hearsay).

Do a contracting job for 3 years and make in tax free income what you'd make in 9 years as a retired w3.

Yes, those other factors you mentioned are huge, but let's be honest. Many guys stuck around through the suck because quite frankly, what else were you gonna do? Fly aero med? Oil rigs? If it was aviation related the apache community was generally pretty limited.

Now, I can get better pay, perks, and depending on what I choose, better career opportunities out there with the skill set I've obtained.
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What is a LCT position?

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Low_Level_Hell said:
Hush now....... comments like that will lead to the Regionals implementing former-rotary-wing-warrant pay scales at 75% rate.
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How are RW guys paying for FW ratings? Didn't the VA shut off money for pilot training?

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scoobs said:
Does that pay well?

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Depends on your version of well. I'll put it like this....at the lowest, you'll pull in tens of thousands over the average median income.
scoobs said:
How are RW guys paying for FW ratings? Didn't the VA shut off money for pilot training?

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G.I. Bill, checkbook, giving blood
 
Now that the Guard is keeping the Apache are guys jumping over?

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scoobs said:
Now that the Guard is keeping the Apache are guys jumping over?

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There has always been some flow over to the guard, but not nearly at the rate of say the Air Force. I honestly know a couple guys that went guard/coastie.... I know tons who flat got out of the Army. The other thing is most of the Warrant population is prior service so for the most part when you're sitting at 14-16 years and CW3 going to the guard just doesn't make sense.

Also with the reduction in units and a lot of those guard guys moving to either other aircraft or other states to stay in the Apache and taking M day jobs there aren't exactly a lot of places to go if your AD.

Plus the Guard jobs out there have been saturated for 2 years by a huge (500ish) outflow of Kiowa guys so if a guard unit is hurting for a guy it's got more to do with people just not wanting to live there than with not having an abundance of qualified candidates.


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