Asking for the jumpseat and other lost traditions

Derg said:
It IS getting a little 'weird' isn't it?

I mean like when you're a kid eating dinner with mom and dad. Mom seems bored and keeps twirling her hair while dad has some weird kind of smirk. He cranks the television really loud and they disappear somewhere down the hallway for about ten minutes — type of 'a little weird' to you too?
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Your mom still uses that same move now btw.
 
Looking out for the crew is saying "get the hell outta here and catch your commute!"
Not one FA here would give a darn either.
I can see more of a need for a Capt to stick around if he so desires.

On a side note, I can say that I've regretted nearly every conversation I've gotten into with an FA. Sadly it's always in the middle of the conversation and I'm trapped already.
 
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Derg said:
Technically, it's kind of part of my routine to stay in the security area until all of my (yes, "my") crew members clear and I'm generally one of the last ones off the aircraft if the crew is terminating. if we're swapping cabin crews, same thing for the most part because crazy shizzle always happens when you least expect it and yeah, it is your responsibility.

If I have a tight commute, I'm going to coordinate with the FO to leave a little early, but if he's on a tight commute as well, later skater and I'll find an alternate ride home later.

Just how I roll.
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This. Being in a hurry generally leads to bad things. Being in a real hurry leads to real bad things.

Besides, running through the terminal to catch a flight makes you look like a dork.

I don't run. Ever. If I can't make it with a smart step, it ain't meant to be.

Richman
 
Seggy said:
Nope.



Deplaning in YUL one time (on a stand up) a passenger passed out in the jetway right in front of the airplane. The gate agent handling the gate checked bags immediately called paramedics and they were there within a minute or two. We left as the are paramedics were tending to the passenger as I knew there was nothing more I or anyone else on the crew could contribute to help the situation. No reports or anything needed as she fell in the jetway. So yes, I have left in the middle of a medical issue.

Do I recommend this every time? No, certainly not, however I am not going to wait around if I don't need to.

I also certainly don't see the harm if someone doesn't rush but gets out of the airplane with a purpose. I got their back. I wonder if others on here do.



Agree.
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That's the point I was making, once the paramedics are there it's out of your hands. I was more talking about someone just peacing out without at least making sure the right people have been contacted/have arrived.
 
Richman said:
This. Being in a hurry generally leads to bad things. Being in a real hurry leads to real bad things.

Besides, running through the terminal to catch a flight makes you look like a dork.

I don't run. Ever. If I can't make it with a smart step, it ain't meant to be.

Richman
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Not to just keep agreeing with you, but I am the same way. Never run to catch a flight. If I get to the gate short of breath and sweating I want it to bad. That's too much desperation to get home, and that's too much of a let down when i don't get on. I refuse to allow myself to get that worked up about going home. Admitedly, I have not been doing this very long, but for all 4 years I've been commuting, and I am not burnt out on it yet, nor do I hate it.
 
You guys keep your pride.....i am normally a no runner but if it's the difference between getting home the last flight of the night or having to spend the night and go home the next day you bet your ass I'll be running. Sorry that I don't hate my family
 
JustinS said:
Although it may seem obvious to us who care, regionals are pumping out pilots like crazy, and no one is taking the time to educate them on proper jumpseat etiquette. Then I hear stories at the hotel during sim about how a buddy from class pissed off a captain, and he was totally confused as to why. It was because of his complete lack of knowledge of proper jumpseat etiquette.... o_O

Unfortunately with this mass movement of careers in the industry comes an influx of an entirely new cultural tide in the industry which won't be fully realized for at least another 10 years.
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If it's this important to you, I would suggest that YOU take the time to teach them. Resist the urge to refer them to a website. Mentor and guide. In the Navy, there are traditions that have been around over 200 years. I learned them because I was taught them. Not in boot camp but in the fleet by someone who cared about those things enough to teach them. Being new to the airline world, it's unrealistic for a ground instructor to teach EVERYTHING that one needs to know in 4 weeks. There is simply too much information and too many moving parts to know everything that is required knowledge out of the gate.
 
No family here. Cats don't care if I come or go as long as the fud machine works.

Richman
 
Derg said:
Technically, it's kind of part of my routine to stay in the security area until all of my (yes, "my") crew members clear and I'm generally one of the last ones off the aircraft if the crew is terminating. if we're swapping cabin crews, same thing for the most part because crazy shizzle always happens when you least expect it and yeah, it is your responsibility.

If I have a tight commute, I'm going to coordinate with the FO to leave a little early, but if he's on a tight commute as well, later skater and I'll find an alternate ride home later.

Just how I roll.
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Leadership! What the heck?
 
GX said:
If it's this important to you, I would suggest that YOU take the time to teach them. Resist the urge to refer them to a website. Mentor and guide. In the Navy, there are traditions that have been around over 200 years. I learned them because I was taught them. Not in boot camp but in the fleet by someone who cared about those things enough to teach them. Being new to the airline world, it's unrealistic for a ground instructor to teach EVERYTHING that one needs to know in 4 weeks. There is simply too much information and too many moving parts to know everything that is required knowledge out of the gate.
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Signs we are doomed: I'm giving the "talk."
 
ClarkGriswold said:
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Raucous laughter.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Leadership! What the heck?
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I'm old school.

Remember, I was largely raised by "those hatless Dallas miscreants", Wally Birds, Yellow Birds and former Pan Am pilots my first three years.

Having been to the "Big Brown Desk" with the FAA a few years ago and hearing the POI's interpretation of captains authority (read: responsibility) and watching the chief pilot and my ALPA representation bobble their heads in agreement, I'm keeping it real, dawg.
 
Derg said:
I'm old school.

Remember, I was largely raised by "those hatless Dallas miscreants", Wally Birds, Yellow Birds and former Pan Am pilots my first three years.

Having been to the "Big Brown Desk" with the FAA a few years ago and hearing the POI's interpretation of captains authority (read: responsibility) and watching the chief pilot and my ALPA representation bobble their heads in agreement, I'm keeping it real, dawg.
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Something happened in which you had to go the big desk? Story time ?
 
One thing to think about: If one of YOUR passengers (or crew) becomes seriously injured or dies before the last occupant deplanes the aircraft, you may have just had an aircraft accident (probably to be determined during a subsequent investigation). Personally, I would want to be there versus:
"Where's the PIC?"
"Oh, he had a flight to catch."

I personally have no problem with splitting, but not until I'm convinced that everything (and everyone else) is taken care of.
 
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