Asking for the jumpseat and other lost traditions

Cptnchia said:
Just make sure that the person is not non revving or deadheading. Stop me afterwards when I'm deadheading, and it'll be an argument you lose.
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the gate agent in Denver the other day gave me a weird look when calling me up to the podium. I was #2 as a S3 for 50 open seats and had canceled my jumpseat listing and switched to non rev on the way to the airport....."are you jumpseating? I don't see you on the paperwork and you are in uniform" why yes...thats because i'll be signing in to start my trip as soon as I get there and I'd much rather have an empty seat next to me than sit on the actual jumpseat with so many seats open in the back........she looked completely bewildered.
 
Nark said:
speaking of other lost traditions...

As flight crew, how about we wait for our FA's?
When we get to base, I always wait until the FA's unload the pax. Ive been told it's very rare.

Case in point last night: we were waiting for a plane to unload so we can take it on a red eye.
The d-bag captain had to run to catch a commute home, and left an ensuing medical emergency.
pro-stands is getting a call/email...
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so it didnt happen until after he left? I fail to see the issue here, you must not be a commuter. Pot, meet kettle.
 
ian said:
so it didnt happen until after he left? I fail to see the issue here, you must not be a commuter. Pot, meet kettle.
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According to the passengers and crew account, the pilot would have had to step over the pool of blood, vomit and feces.

So no, I fail to sympathize for this commuter.
This person is cut from the same cloth as the Costa Concordia captain.

Hey, here's a thought. Go to the gate at D-5 and check for pilots running up.

This website preaches looking out for each other, yet many of you contributing to this thread are blatantly saying "I'm only looking out for myself, screw the rest of the crew."

Clearly a lost tradition.
 
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Technically, it's kind of part of my routine to stay in the security area until all of my (yes, "my") crew members clear and I'm generally one of the last ones off the aircraft if the crew is terminating. if we're swapping cabin crews, same thing for the most part because crazy shizzle always happens when you least expect it and yeah, it is your responsibility.

If I have a tight commute, I'm going to coordinate with the FO to leave a little early, but if he's on a tight commute as well, later skater and I'll find an alternate ride home later.

Just how I roll.
 
Nark said:
According to the passengers and crew account, the pilot would have had to step over the pool of blood, vomit and feces.

So no, I fail to sympathize for this commuter.
This person is cut from the same cloth as the Costa Concordia captain.

Hey, here's a thought. Go to the gate at D-5 and check for pilots running up.

This website preaches looking out for each other, yet many of you contributing to this thread are blatantly saying "I'm only looking out for myself, screw the rest of the crew."

Clearly a lost tradition.
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No it sounds like a one time thing, not a lost tradition.
 
Seggy said:
No it sounds like a one time thing, not a lost tradition.
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Not when the FA's comment to me all the time "I remember you because you stay behind. No one ever does that."
Or like in this specific case, with the 2 FA's that stayed on with us, thanking both the captain and I for having their backs.
"Pilots don't normally come out and help us with Gate Agent issues."

Verbatim quotes from my last trip.
 
Nark said:
Not when the FA's comment to me all the time "I remember you because you stay behind. No one ever does that."
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Honestly, I would be like, 'aren't you responsible enough to handle things that come up if we aren't here, there are at least three of you to handle it?' There have been multiple times at my three airlines where I have showed up, plane is all boarded, they are just waiting on cockpit crew.

Or like in this specific case, with the 2 FA's that stayed on with us, thanking both the captain and I for having their backs.
"Pilots don't normally come out and help us with Gate Agent issues."

Verbatim quotes from my last trip.
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Remember, I worked at the same place you are at and I NEVER had a Captain or I myself turn my back on a Gate Agent/FA issue.
 
@Nark
I understand what you are saying, but this isn't the military. There is no unit cohesiveness, no esprit de corps. There is no "lost tradition." I've been doing airline flying for over 20 years, and can count more times where cabin crew were more than happy to throw the cockpit crew under the bus than the other way around. I've had FAs, on an international flight no less, take the bus and head to the hotel when we had to stay for some MX paperwork. Cuts both ways.

Hate to break the news to you, but it gets worse at the legacies. Some employees been doing it so long, are so burnt out, or have an axe to grind, they have nothing but contempt for other employee groups. Pilot, FA, above wing, or below, doesn't matter.

My friends, if they called in the middle of the night to help get rid of a body, I'd be there ASAP, no questions asked. Some of the people I have to work with? I wouldn't cross the street to piss on them if they were on fire.
 
MusketeerMan said:
Does this suffice? Twice in the past 3 weeks, DL Cappy comes on and states, "Guess I'm up here with you guys". Can't imagine how that would go if roles were reversed.
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To be clear, I meant if you've already spoken with the captain up by the gate and got your seat in the back.
 
CFIscare said:
I'm beginning to think @Seggy and @Nark don't like each other.

That or they are secret lovers.
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It IS getting a little 'weird' isn't it?

I mean like when you're a kid eating dinner with mom and dad. Mom seems bored and keeps twirling her hair while dad has some weird kind of smirk. He cranks the television really loud and they disappear somewhere down the hallway for about ten minutes — type of 'a little weird' to you too?
 
Derg said:
It IS getting a little 'weird' isn't it?

I mean like when you're a kid eating dinner with mom and dad. Mom seems bored and keeps twirling her hair while dad has some weird kind of smirk. He cranks the television really loud and they disappear somewhere down the hallway for about ten minutes — type of 'a little weird' to you too?
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Not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
Derg said:
It IS getting a little 'weird' isn't it?

I mean like when you're a kid eating dinner with mom and dad. Mom seems bored and keeps twirling her hair while dad has some weird kind of smirk. He cranks the television really loud and they disappear somewhere down the hallway for about ten minutes — type of 'a little weird' to you too?
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I learned a lesson many, many years ago. Don't open their bedroom door what this happens.
 
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Cptnchia said:
@Nark

My friends, if they called in the middle of the night to help get rid of a body, I'd be there ASAP, no questions asked. Some of the people I have to work with? I wouldn't cross the street to piss on them if they were on fire.
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Aww hell, I'd piss on most anyone if they were on fire. Cross the street? Nah, can't be bothered.
 
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