Trans States Airlines to get 36 airplanes

jynxyjoe said:
Hehe, you can always tell a guy with a lot of tprop time. Our company had some Saabisms that would make it into autopilot usage on the rj, otherwise having a prop guy is a boon.
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The difference between "what's it doing now" vs. "oh, there, it's doing THAT again" can be significant for the operation.
 
kellwolf said:
$42/hr for a CA is a slap in the friggin' face. Just saying.
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Negative, this rate would be for flying as an FO only. It's basically a blended rate of CA and FO pay. When in the left seat, the CQFO would be paid the CA hourly pay. This same program was used at GoJet.
 
dtpilot said:
Negative, this rate would be for flying as an FO only. It's basically a blended rate of CA and FO pay. When in the left seat, the CQFO would be paid the CA hourly pay. This same program was used at GoJet.
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Again, I have not seen any firm details myself, yet, but it sounds like you're describing what I hear Southwest does. "Lance Captain", it's called?
 
falconvalley said:
Again, I have not seen any firm details myself, yet, but it sounds like you're describing what I hear Southwest does. "Lance Captain", it's called?
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Lance captains only get normal FO pay for their regular schedule. They can pick up captain trips in open time, and only then do they get captain pay. The program is also likely on the way out whenever a new CBA is done. Management wants to be rid of it.
 
Anyone care to speak on their typical trips? You seeing a mixed bag of everything or are 4 day trips common? Looking for specifically out out of IAD.
 
dtpilot said:
Negative, this rate would be for flying as an FO only. It's basically a blended rate of CA and FO pay. When in the left seat, the CQFO would be paid the CA hourly pay. This same program was used at GoJet.
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That "blended rate" is less than I'm making as an FO. Tie in good work rules and throw in an extra 30% of soft time and you'll see why I'm in no hurry to go to Trans States.
 
falconvalley said:
They do that to new captains here at RAH, except you are paid the captain rate. We get guys upgrading and then basically sitting right seat in the Q. I can understand people having issues with this, but what really concerns me is the fact that the airlines don't have to give you full training to sit in the right seat. People who've never flown the plane before could be sitting right seat on day 1 as captain, and never have been evaluated doing it, just given the minimum amount of time in the sim.
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When I was a CQF I had to take a FO PC 2 months after taking my upgrade PC in order to remain able to sit in the right seat. :( As someone who did it recently it's definitely not the safest thing in the world. Sitting down in the right seat was like putting on an old pair of jeans. Everything clicked right away. But sitting left seat for the first time in a month? Hard to find your groove. It definitely was not one of the high points of my career thus far. It took me 8 months to get off high mins.
 
Screaming_Emu said:
That "blended rate" is less than I'm making as an FO. Tie in good work rules and throw in an extra 30% of soft time and you'll see why I'm in no hurry to go to Trans States.
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And you fly a CRJ...no reason to be running to the exits just yet unless its for a better gig all around.

ATL or DTW when the time comes though?
 
Trip7 said:
This looks like the beginning of the end of low 1st year pay in the Regional industry. Simultaneously, it also looks like the beginning of the end of senior regional pilot groups.
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Call me jaded and skeptical, but until regional guys are no longer willing to step on the neck of the guy next to them to get ahead, I'm gonna have to disagree. As for ending "senior regional pilot groups," guys are still sticking around a sinking ship like Endeavor because they don't want to give up the seniority or QoL to sit reserve at a major. I don't see that ending any time soon unless we go through a cycle of several regional shut down/start ups. It's not even exclusive to pilots. I know two VERY senior FAs at Endeavor that would be good fits at Blue. One lives in MCO, the other in MIA. Neither want to give up the commute to JFK because of their QoL despite the fact the constantly complain about how they're treated by the company and how bleak the outlook is for their continued employment. They won't leave until the doors are slammed on them. I'm sure there are several senior CAs just as entrenched. Doubly so if they live in DTW or MSP.
 
surreal1221 said:
And you fly a CRJ...no reason to be running to the exits just yet unless its for a better gig all around.

ATL or DTW when the time comes though?
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DTW. I want to bid the 700 to offset some commuting costs and I've already flown with the crazy bastards that fly that out of ATL.

Plus I like the small base thing. It's like an entirely different airline. You know most of the people, less angry rednecks ranting in the crew lounge. A big win all around.
 
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