Guess they didn't learn the first time.. Delta's new KSEA-PAJN run.

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ASpilot2be said:
I will say this about the flying in Western Alaska. The attitude is really changing out here. Most people are filing IFR, and there are a lot less specials. Everywhere seems to have approaches, so why not file? Plus a lot of the old timers are on their way out, and some companies wont hire old timers. They hire younger, more conservative pilots.
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That is great to hear.
 
Seggy said:
That is great to hear.
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It absolutely is refreshing. The number of fatal crashes has come down a lot. A lot of money has been spent in making it safer up here. Give it a few years and I am sure you will see a very positive trend in accident statistics.
 
ASpilot2be said:
He was awesome to fly with. His stories and experiences are amazing. He helped me a lot with my flying.
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So he is still flying in AK inbetween seeing/experiencing the the world and guiding/mountain climbing? Quite the man. Going to be fun cruising around his site. He had quite the ordeal getting back from Afghanistan apparently.
 
A Life Aloft said:
So apparently he is still flying in AK inbetween seeing/experiencing the the world and guiding/mountain climbing? Quite the man. Going to be fun cruising around his site.
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He is not flying in Alaska anymore as of last week. He is off on another adventure right now!
 
ASpilot2be said:
He was talking about ferrying an airplane, but I am not sure what he is upto. He should update his blog before long.
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I bookmarked it for reading while I am traveling. Just watched the video about Afghanistan. Man, he is living the adventure allrighty. He could be anywheres from the look of his past escapades. He has some interesting looking interviews with various pilots on there too. Glad you posted the link.
 
ASpilot2be said:
I will say this about the flying in Western Alaska. The attitude is really changing out here. Most people are filing IFR, and there are a lot less specials. Everywhere seems to have approaches, so why not file? Plus a lot of the old timers are on their way out, and some companies wont hire old timers. They hire younger, more conservative pilots.

This is a great article written by my old Captain.
http://oddballpilot.com/2013/12/the-price-of-experience/
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He's dead on. The old pilots can be downright scary. We talked about this to some extent the other day. It's like pulling teeth to go IFR.
I actually asked, ok, so it's 12 miles extra to go IFR, safely. We do 275kts on average. That is a massive 3 minutes extra.
 
AUAeropilot said:
. We (PE) didn't find out about the desire to service JNU until middle of last week.

The focus now shifts to operational reliability. We can only use the LDA published approach to JNU (and its extremely high minimums) since the RNAV(GPS) is N/A for Cat C and D aircraft. (other options are currently being investigated, but as of right now we only have access to publicly published procedures. We certainly can fly RNP procedures on the 738, but availability of those procedures for JNU is currently limited...$$$) I've got this nice piece of paper hanging in my cube stating I've completed the FAA PBN course and a Letter of Authorization from the FAA in my laptop bag stating I am certified to design PBN approaches but the start to finish timeline for these procedures pushes the completion date well beyond May of 2015. We are tentatively scheduled in late January to flight validate a procedure we built for a ski destination that's been an ongoing project from earlier this year. It's not nearly as challenging as JNU and the procedure we've built was just to get an approach with Cat D minimums when landing a certain direction.

Bottom line is that this one was held very close to the chest, even internally, and now that it's out everyone is weighing in on the challenges we will face.
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Edited for emphasis, but can I say I told you so now @Seggy?
If the marketing minds didn't think to consult PE before announcing service, do you really think they got all the ducks in a row for stuff like gate and counter space?
I'm not saying they can't do it, because they've got the money to make things happen, but it seems like maybe in this tiff with AS the marketing folks may have jumped the gun a little bit.
 
Roger Roger said:
Edited for emphasis, but can I say I told you so now @Seggy?
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Told me what?

If anything that shows that the organization has faith in the different departments to get the job done.

If the marketing minds didn't think to consult PE before announcing service, do you really think they got all the ducks in a row for stuff like gate and counter space?
I'm not saying they can't do it, because they've got the money to make things happen, but it seems like maybe in this tiff with AS the marketing folks may have jumped the gun a little bit.
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I am sure Delta will have no problem getting the gate and counter space or get the approaches they need. This is child's play compared to dealing with some of the other airport authorities across the world.
 
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Roger Roger said:
Edited for emphasis, but can I say I told you so now @Seggy?
If the marketing minds didn't think to consult PE before announcing service, do you really think they got all the ducks in a row for stuff like gate and counter space?
I'm not saying they can't do it, because they've got the money to make things happen, but it seems like maybe in this tiff with AS the marketing folks may have jumped the gun a little bit.
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I don't know what the typical turn time is for corporate real estate to start working on getting gates, ticket counters, etc. but I will admit it was a little odd being invited to the party later than we normally are. We stepped up to the plate and are going to make it happen (from our end anyway) but it appears the service announcement was very well protected.
 
AUAeropilot said:
I don't know what the typical turn time is for corporate real estate to start working on getting gates, ticket counters, etc. but I will admit it was a little odd being invited to the party later than we normally are. We stepped up to the plate and are going to make it happen (from our end anyway) but it appears the service announcement was very well protected.
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If anything this points to the fact that Delta and Alaska hate each other if it was this well protected.

For those Alaska folks who are still concerned about gate space, let me expand. US Airlines in some parts of the world have to deal with threats bribes, threats of aircraft/crew impoundment, and contracts with certain folks who are related very well to the regime in power. One airline had to delay service to a certain city and pull out of another one because they are not willing to pay these unethical monies out. Soooooooo, getting gate and counter space in JNU will be a lot easier than what other issues are faced by corporate real estate.
 
Seggy said:
If anything this points to the fact that Delta and Alaska hate each other if it was this well protected.

For those Alaska folks who are still concerned about gate space, let me expand. US Airlines in some parts of the world have to deal with threats bribes, threats of aircraft/crew impoundment, and contracts with certain folks who are related very well to the regime in power. One airline had to delay service to a certain city and pull out of another one because they are not willing to pay these unethical monies out. Soooooooo, getting gate and counter space in JNU will be a lot easier than what other issues are faced by corporate real estate.
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It has nothing to do with being able to bribe or bully their way in... It is about people that know ever square foot of the airport, know all the leases, that know that Alaska payed for a complete remodel that locked down ever square foot of space in the building, that know there is not a single hanger or other building on the field for a new operator. So how do you figure we don't understand the challenges of trying get a foot hold in the building? And deal in facts of the this situation, in this building.. Not relate stories on how something was done somewhere else, so far your arm chair speculation has been striking out.. Let's see if we can close the deal.
 
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Capt. Chaos said:
It has nothing to do with being able to bribe or bully their way in... It is about people that know ever square foot of the airport, know all the leases, that know that Alaska payed for a complete remodel that locked down ever square foot of space in the building, that know there is not a single hanger or other building on the field for a new operator. So how do you figure we don't understand the challenges of trying get a foot hold in the building? And deal in facts of the this situation, in this building.. Not relate stories on how something was done somewhere else, so far your arm chair speculation has been striking out.. Let's see if we can close the deal.
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As I said, Delta will have no problem securing the space they need.
 
Capt. Chaos said:
It has nothing to do with being able to bribe or bully their way in... It is about people that know ever square foot of the airport, know all the leases, that know that Alaska payed for a complete remodel that locked down ever square foot of space in the building, that know there is not a single hanger or other building on the field for a new operator. So how do you figure we don't understand the challenges of trying get a foot hold in the building? And deal in facts of the this situation, in this building.. Not relate stories on how something was done somewhere else, so far your arm chair speculation has been striking out.. Let's see if we can close the deal.
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It's been said, AS uses Delta's gates in ATL and LAX. I could see an issue with availability in those cities until something opens up in JNU. If Delta can deal with the Nigerians, anything and everything is possible.
 
Whadda ya mean twice? How about every paycheck! Every day that we are below "restoration" payrates is another day that the company gets more money from us.
 
Cptnchia said:
Whadda ya mean twice? How about every paycheck! Every day that we are below "restoration" payrates is another day that the company gets more money from us.
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Weren't some calling it a pay "raise", when it really is a "restoration"?
 
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