queeno
Ward of the Guberment
my daughter says that BACON IS a gate way meat!!!!!!!
AirTran/SWA Seniority Integration Deal
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my daughter says that BACON IS a gate way meat!!!!!!!
Screaming_Emu
Well-Known Member
I prefer to call it meat candy
NewsBot
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Report: SWA prepared to alter AirTran plans if pilot integra
Southwest Airlines (SWA) has reportedly warned AirTran Airways' 1,600 pilots that voting against ratification of a tentative agreement to combine the merging airlines' pilot seniority lists could force a reevaluation of SWA's merger strategy.
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Southwest Airlines (SWA) has reportedly warned AirTran Airways' 1,600 pilots that voting against ratification of a tentative agreement to combine the merging airlines' pilot seniority lists could force a reevaluation of SWA's merger strategy.
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Re: Report: SWA prepared to alter AirTran plans if pilot int
SWA upping the ante? Going the hardball route?
Southwest Airlines (SWA) has reportedly warned AirTran Airways' 1,600 pilots that voting against ratification of a tentative agreement to combine the merging airlines' pilot seniority lists could force a reevaluation of SWA's merger strategy.
Full Article...
SWA upping the ante? Going the hardball route?
SurferLucas
Southern Gentleman
Re: Report: SWA prepared to alter AirTran plans if pilot int
I've made the decision not to ride on Southwest due to the attitude/arrogance being shown to my friends that fly at AirTran. Give'em hell boys and don't vote yes just because they've got a gun to your head.
I've made the decision not to ride on Southwest due to the attitude/arrogance being shown to my friends that fly at AirTran. Give'em hell boys and don't vote yes just because they've got a gun to your head.
pullup
Homewrecker
Then they're in a worse position then ever. They spit in SWA's face when the good, first offer was made, to think they would have sweetened the deal is laughable. It's David vs Goliath and Goliath will not fall.
surreal1221
Well-Known Member
Some of us have to fight the good fight.
The Air Tran guys and girls will make the right decision for their pilot group, but as has been explained over and over again here...it wasn't an easy decision to turn down the previous SLI agreements.
The Air Tran guys and girls will make the right decision for their pilot group, but as has been explained over and over again here...it wasn't an easy decision to turn down the previous SLI agreements.
pullup
Homewrecker
But this isn't the time to put up a fight since they gave a fair deal to start with. This isn't a majority of SW pilots turning this down, it's the new kid on the block. As much as I would love for them to integrate flawlessly, SW is not going to lose it's current pilot group by bowing to ATN demands.
The difference is SW will lose nothing by playing hardball, ATN planes and routes are just icing on the cake.
Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
Seems to me that the wisest course of action would be to just torpedo the whole deal (if they still can). At this point, no good comes of this, whatever happens. IMHO, etc etc.
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
It wasn't such a fair deal to start with. Better than what they've got now, but certainly not fair.
pullup
Homewrecker
They were never going to get a fair seniority integration, they got a boatload of money instead. It may not have been fair, relatively speaking, but it was the best they were going to get. As far as I know, they don't have a whole lot of leverage in this situation.
Minuteman
I HAVE STRONG OPINIONS ABOUT AUTOMOTIVE LIGHTING!
Do you mean, like, Southwest's lobbyists and ALPA's lobbyists get into a knife fight in the Capitol building's cafeteria some day soon?
'Cause it seems like this is headed towards senators and judges without some kind of conciliatory gesture by someone.
Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
It don't take a swami to predict that SOMEONE gets denied a jumpseat SOMEWHERE over this crap. Rinse, wash, repeat. Ugh.
We had a pretty "Disneyesque" merger at Southernjets. Of course we have small pockets of people who will just resort to kick rocks all the way until they "die mad", but most have just moved on. About the only way to tell the difference is usually a choice of layover clothes and big honkin' Wilford Brimley-like mustaches... Even on the women (kidding, M.M-D! of course! 
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Besides, jumpseat wars are the equivalent of "Some guy from Fresno stole my pocketknife so I'm going to not answer any ambulance calls from people who have Fresno mailing addresses to teach 'em a lesson". Ooooooookk!
)Besides, jumpseat wars are the equivalent of "Some guy from Fresno stole my pocketknife so I'm going to not answer any ambulance calls from people who have Fresno mailing addresses to teach 'em a lesson". Ooooooookk!
Rocketman99
Frozen Guppy Manipulator
Did you actually type that with a straight face? The first offer was crap and they've gotten progressively worse. At this point the ATN folks are better off in STFD mode. SWA is coming off like a bunch of jackarses with a god complex in this merger. Man that koolaid spreads far. They are not and will not ever be close to that.
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
Exactly. As far as the ATN pilot group goes, the best thing that can happen at this point is for the merger to be called off.
But I can't imagine that Southwest will actually throw away a $1.4 billion purchase over something as petty as this. If they do, they've got one of the worst management teams in the airline industry, and that's really saying something.
pullup
Homewrecker
I think SW management is the best in the industry. They are protecting the core group during this process while offering ATN a good, not perfect offer. They will throw away a $1.4 billion dollar deal because the long term effects of having this go real bad would cost far more than that.
SigShooter
New Member
It's kinda funny you have to admit... We all complain about our managements about how horrible they are because they don't support us. Then Swa management gives support for their pilots during this ACQUISITION and now they are the worst in the industry??? We're never happy are we?
