SIUav8er
Narcosis
Here is a pic of one of the upgraded birds avionics:View attachment 16234
thats waaaaay too nice for a freighter!
Here is a pic of one of the upgraded birds avionics:View attachment 16234
hahahahahahMartinaire will be next in line to upgrade their fleet.
If you belive that, I've got some beach property in AZ I'd like to sell you.
thats waaaaay too nice for a freighter!
Without fail, the worst icing I encounter throughout the year is in the summer. It usually involved convective activity and flying at night when you can't see the buildups. Having said that, at least in the summer there's always a way out of the ice (descend). Although, really, most winter icing doesn't bother me much. Usually changing altitudes 2000 feet will fix the problem and you can almost always get into a place with solely impact snow (the only time I like seeing snow is at altitude). Advice for any new freight pilot: although snow does adhere to the wings, it will never amount to much and is a great altitude to fly it. Personally, of any of my icing experiences, the one's I wished I'd had TKS have been on 90 degree days in sodak (a number of them), and one random freezing rain day that happened in late May a couple years back.
Does the TKS allow for more cargo weight? I know in SLC hey have limits on how much cargo they can take on the icing forecast/reports.
Can't speak for the "big iron", but in a 210 or Baron, the only penalty you take for TKS is whatever the fluid weighs. Which generally isn't that much unless you have to take along extra jugs because you have a 7 leg day and (IMS) it's only good for about an hour on the "high" setting. Also FWIW, I've never seen a substantial amount of ice accrue with the TKS on "high", no matter how bad the conditions. "Normal" is a different story. That said, if I had to choose between a booted 210 and a TKS'd 210 in ice, I'd pick the later every day of the week and twice on Sunday. It's expensive, but it Works.
The TKS system is lighter than the boots, but the added weight of the glycol makes you end up losing some weight if you have full tank of fluid. It doesn't, at least not yet, change the icing limitation on the caravan which is in known (not forecast) icing on a 675hp engine you are limited to MTOW of 8550 (instead of 8750.)Does the TKS allow for more cargo weight? I know in SLC hey have limits on how much cargo they can take on the icing forecast/reports.
The TKS system is lighter than the boots, but the added weight of the glycol makes you end up losing some weight if you have full tank of fluid. It doesn't, at least not yet, change the icing limitation on the caravan which is in known (not forecast) icing on a 675hp engine you are limited to MTOW of 8550 (instead of 8750.)
Not really. If you have a 600HP engine you're limited to 8000lbs MTOW in known icing though.
I'm glad to see the system is being installed on other a/c. This should save some lives.
Martinaire will be next in line to upgrade their fleet.
If you belive that, I've got some beach property in AZ I'd like to sell you.
Ok I'm pulling this from my posterior, but I think it was 17 gal.Agreed. How many gallons did the Twin Commander hold? In the C210 & Baron it's only ~6.7 gallons (or 2.5 norm & 1.25 max flow)
Wisdom from a guy who's Been There. Builds up fast in the tops of those summer storms, but as mentioned above, not a big issue because you have all kinds of Outs. The worst I've ever been scared by ice was in a low-powered machine under an inversion in freezing rain. If you have the power (and pressurization) to climb, even in a turboprop, ice is (usually, in my experience, etc etc) not that scary. Course, I never flew a Caravan, and I think even the 210 that scared the turds out of me was much better in ice than the ole Flying Roadblock. YMMV, be careful, and all that.
The twin commanders I flew for 2 years had TKS and enough liquid for about 4.5 hours at normal flow and about 2.25 at high flow(IIRC).
I'm glad to see the system is being installed on other a/c. This should save some lives.
Ok I'm pulling this from my posterior, but I think it was 17 gal.
One thing about TKS (which I've never used) I'm confused about. There are plenty of times you get into icing and its not forecast and vice versa. If you get into ice and didn't have the system turned on and you start building will it shed the ice? Or are people just turning it on every time its cold outside and there's clouds in the sky? Is the fluid readily available at FBO's?
Haha!! I was ramp checked a month ago. The fed was looking at the AFL to see if I was airworthy and saw the total time on the airframe. (over 13,000 hours on this one) He looks at me and says, "does your company ever retire airframes?!"
How do you guys give out PIREPS (type of ice) with TKS if no ice actually forms?