House, Senate pass 1500 rule, Rest rules, and more

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Congress Passes Slimmed-Down FAA Reauthorization BillBy ANDY PASZTOR and JOSH MITCHELL

U.S. House and Senate leaders, deadlocked over a comprehensive FAA bill including plans for air-traffic control improvements, have compromised on a slimmed-down measure to enhance airliner safety.
The legislation raises minimum experience and training requirements for new airline pilots. It also requires that before purchasing tickets on the Internet, passengers must be specifically informed when a flight will be operated by a commuter carrier operating on behalf of a larger airline.
The bill was passed by the House shortly late Thursday night and the Senate on Friday.
Rep. Jerry Costello, the Illinois Democrat who chairs the House Transportation subcommittee with jurisdiction over these issues, called it the "strongest aviation safety bill" the House has taken up in decades.
But some of the pilot-training and other oversight provisions have prompted objections from both industry representatives and Federal Aviation Administration officials, who argue lawmakers are attempting to micromanage safety rules. And the bill doesn't address longer-term issues related to scheduling and funding of the FAA's proposed shift to a satellite-based traffic-control system.
In abandoning the original legislation, at least for now, lawmakers also left unresolved controversial provisions over union organizing at FedEx Corp. and approval of long-distance flights from Washington's Reagan National Airport. Those issues have blocked agreement on a broader bill for many months, prompting lawmakers to approve a series of stopgap extensions to the FAA's spending and taxing authority. Thursday's vote was the 15th such temporary extension in a row, continuing the agency's programs until the end of September.
Still, the bill seeks to substantially raise training standards, by mandating that all airline pilots must have at least 1,500 hours of flight time in their log books before flying passengers—up from 250 hours currently for some newly hired co-pilots. The FAA and industry groups, on the other hand, contend the most important factor is the type of training that is provided rather than the total number of hours behind the controls.
The legislation also envisions closer scrutiny of commuter carriers by their larger airline partners. It directs the FAA to update rules on pilot duty hours and rest time to alleviate cockpit fatigue, an effort the agency already has under way. And it mandates creation of a national database of pilot records, making it easier for airlines to conduct background checks when hiring.
Those measures are designed to address safety gaps exposed by the February 2009 crash of Colgan Air Inc. flight 3407, operating for Continental Airlines Inc., that killed all 49 people on board and one person on the ground in a suburb outside Buffalo, N.Y.
With relatives of many of the victims observing the debate and even cheering at the end from the House visitor's gallery, passage marked the end of their intense, more than a year-long lobbying effort to push through a safety bill. The debate on the floor underscored the emotions behind the legislation, along with the frustration of some members for failing to break the Senate logjam over the broader bill.
Rep. Louise Slaughter, a Democrat from upstate New York, said investigation of the Colgan crash revealed that the pilots were "exhausted, undertrained [and] underpaid." Reflecting bipartisan support for the bill, Rep. Chris Lee, a New York Republican, praised the families for advocating a bill intended to ensure there will be "experienced, well-trained and prepared pilots in every [airliner] cockpit."
Senate Commerce Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller (D., W.Va.), who led negotiations on the bill, said in a statement that the legislation "will boost pilot training programs, combat pilot fatigue, and dramatically increase requirements for pilots of passenger airlines to have more flying experience."
But like other senators, the chairman expressed disappointment that the broader bill was sidelined. The Senate measure, for example, included timetables for phasing in satellite-based navigation and opened the door for federal and state-backed financial support for installation of such new equipment by airlines. In addition, it called for studies of hazards posed by distracted pilots and the impact of higher oil prices on the long-term viability of the industry.
A spokesman for House Transportation Committee Chairman James Oberstar (D., Minn.), a main proponent of the FedEx provision, said the chairman would continue to press for the unionization legislation and other provisions of the broader bill when Congress returns after the August recess.
During Thursday's debate, Rep. Oberstar called the bill's passage a "citizens triumph" in boosting aviation safety.
"Airlines remain fully committed to improving the safest air transportation system in the world," according to James C. May, president and chief executive of the Air Transport Association, which represents large U.S. carriers. "We look forward to working with Congress to finish the work already started."
Write to Andy Pasztor at andy.pasztor@wsj.com and Josh Mitchell at joshua.mitchell@dowjones.com
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Airline bill heads to president's desk

Updated: Friday, 30 Jul 2010, 1:41 PM EDT
Published : Friday, 30 Jul 2010, 10:42 AM EDT


WASHINGTON, D.C. (WIVB) - A landmark bill aimed at making our skies safer, is now on its way to President Obama.
The Senate unanimously passed the legislation, Friday morning. It's a major victory for Flight 3407 families who have become lobbyists for airline safety, since the Clarence Center crash last year.
The aviation bill forces airlines to hire more experienced pilots. Among some of the provisions in the bill, requiring 1,500 hours of flight time for pilots, three times what is required now.
The bill will also ensure that websites list the regional airline on their website, when ordering airline tickets online.
This bill was pushed forward by Flight 3407 families.
Lawmakers looked at the cockpit transcripts of that fateful night.
"We took a look at the records of the pilot and discovered that the pilot and discovered the pilot had failed on multiple occasions key exams," said Senator Byron Dorgan, D, North Dakota. "Had the airline known that, the airline said 'We wouldn't have hired that pilot, had we known of those failures.'"
Those records will be available to the airlines through an industry database for pilot records.
Senator Charles Schumer released a statement within the past hour saying quote, "This is a textbook example of a small group of people who, with only right on their side, were able to overcome large and powerful special interests."
The bill now heads to the president's desk.
>> The victims' families met with Obama, when he was in Buffalo.
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WE DID IT!!!!!

www.3407memorial.com

www.remember3407project.org

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Can someone link the entire contents of the final bill?


Still working on the exact text of the bill. These are applicable bullet points that I got through an ALPA blast email.

Congress Moves One Step Closer on First Officer Qualifications

On Thursday and Friday of this week, the House of Representatives and the Senate passed an extension to FAA funding since the FAA Reauthorization Bill is not yet ready for passage. Notably, in this extension bill, the House of Representatives attached many of the safety provisions that were previously part of the FAA Reauthorization Bill. Some of the primary safety enhancements are listed below:
1. Congress will be provided with an annual report on the condition of airline safety.
2. Within 90 days of the enactment of this law, the FAA will design and maintain an electronic pilot records database that will contain certificates maintained and applicable limitations, failures of tests for those licenses and ratings, summary of legal enforcement actions that were not subsequently overturned, air carrier flight hour and training records, air carrier discipline records, including reports of termination, and driving records from the state in which the pilot resides.
3. The FAA will establish an FAA rulemaking committee that will assist in establishing a rule enacting pilot mentoring and professional development, as well as reviewing current training regulations for possible enhancement. A new rule must be issued within three years of the enactment of this law.
4. The FAA will establish an FAA rulemaking committee that will review and develop regulations requiring enhanced stall recognition and recovery training, including full stalls. This ARC will also review and recommend changes to regulations overseeing the remedial training of pilots who experience difficulties in the training process. A new rule must be issued within three years of the enactment of this law.
5. Within one year of the enactment of this law, the FAA must finalize a new rule on pilot flight time and duty time limitations.
6. Within 90 days of the enactment of this law, each air carrier will have to submit to the FAA a fatigue risk management plan.
7. Within 24 months of the enactment of this law, the FAA will publish a final rule requiring each air carrier to have a Safety Management System (SMS) in place. Such SMS must include the establishment of an Advanced Qualification Program (AQP).
8. The FAA will establish an FAA rulemaking committee (which has already been established) that will review minimum qualifications for employment as an air carrier pilot. Additionally, this ARC will review current requirements for an Air Transport Pilot license.
9. Within three years from when the President signs this bill into law, all airline pilots will need to acquire an Airline Transport License, including those seeking pilot employment at an air carrier.
10. The FAA will establish an FAA rulemaking committee that will review and develop regulations enhancing the requirements for an Air Line Transport License that will include flight training, academic training, or operational experience that will prepare a pilot to perform the job of a modern airline pilot. The Air Line Transport License will continue to require a minimum of 1,500 flight hours except that specific academic training courses may be applied and credited toward the 1,500 flight hour requirement. A final rule must be enacted within three years from the date this bill becomes law.

Additionally, two weeks ago, the FAA called for the formation of an Aviation Rulemaking Committee (ARC) to formulate the tenets of a new rule covering First Officer Qualification requirements for employment under Part 121. ALPA’s Leja Noe, from the Pilot Training Committee will be the primary participant from ALPA and Chuck Hogeman, Chairman of ALPA’s Human Factors and Training Committee. There are nine other participants on the ARC that we are currently aware of, ALPA, CAPA, RAA, ATA, PCI, AABI, RAACA, AOPA, and NADA.

We are pleased that the FAA has called for this ARC and fully support a detailed evaluation and updating of the requirements for employment at a Part 121 carrier.

The President is expected to sign the bill into law next week.

 
Be careful what you wish for, looks like a lot of government intrusion and tracking to me. Plus not to mention didn't the 3407 pilots have over 1500 hours anyway?

Is there a government run system for tracking doctors who screw up? Seems like now a failed checkride could be a "kiss of death" for any future career aspirations.
 
Be careful what you wish for, looks like a lot of government intrusion and tracking to me. Plus not to mention didn't the 3407 pilots have over 1500 hours anyway?

Is there a government run system for tracking doctors who screw up? Seems like now a failed checkride could be a "kiss of death" for any future career aspirations.


Not the FO. But the question is how many hours did the captain have? Responsibility falls on his shoulder and i would assume he was more experienced pilot in the cockpit.
 
Somehow I think this will do more harm than good. Has anyone actually looked into the potential consequences of this?
 
Be careful what you wish for, looks like a lot of government intrusion and tracking to me. Plus not to mention didn't the 3407 pilots have over 1500 hours anyway?

Is there a government run system for tracking doctors who screw up? Seems like now a failed checkride could be a "kiss of death" for any future career aspirations.


'Seems' and 'is' are two different things. The records database isn't too far removed from current PRIA standards. Let it play out before we assume that any of is the end of somebody's career.
 
I am way below the new FO minimums. I have no idea how i will ever get to that point unless i pay for the flights or become a CFI, for which i also need funds.

You have three years to make up the difference. If there's a will, there's a way. You'll figure it out.
 
Doesn't age 65 come up in those three years? I'm still willing to bet regionals start stocking up on pilots before year 3.
 
Not the FO. But the question is how many hours did the captain have? Responsibility falls on his shoulder and i would assume he was more experienced pilot in the cockpit.

Umm, wrong. What do you think, the FO is just along for the ride?
 
Congrats FB. It will be interesting to see what the rest requirements they come up with are.

I agree the rest requirements will be huge. I can count on two fingers when I've had only 8 hours behind the door and one hand I've had 9 hours, and I was pretty tired after that. I can't imagine doing it every month.
 
Not the FO. But the question is how many hours did the captain have? Responsibility falls on his shoulder and i would assume he was more experienced pilot in the cockpit.

I thought she had 1800 hours?

Just looked up wikipedia and she had 2200 hours, almost 800 in the Q400.

In fact I would like to know what crashes in the past 20 years had pilots up front with less than 1500 hours TT. And of those crashes which were pilot error?

This is knee jerk legislation as far as the hour requirements go IMO. Worth it for better rest requirement? IMO yes, but I'm already employed.

Not to mention you can pencil whip 1000 hours out of thin air easy. "Fly what you can, log what you need".
 
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