Calling out another pilot.

Bumblebee said:
part of leadership is knowing when it is appropriate to say something and when it is appropriate to keep your inexperienced mouth shut...:pirate:


now as far as you are concerned...which 777 do you fly?:rawk:
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when someone is doing something blatantly unsafe in an airplane that can potentially result in death, it is the correct time to speak up.

if you don't think so, please feel free to contact the FAA yourself and ask them if it's recommended to "break aggressively" out of a "360 overhead pattern". I'd just LOVE to see the look on their faces when you ask them :)
 
TwilightFan91 said:
when someone is doing something blatantly unsafe in an airplane that can potentially result in death, it is the correct time to speak up.

if you don't think so, please feel free to contact the FAA yourself and ask them if it's recommended to "break aggressively" out of a "360 overhead pattern". I'd just LOVE to see the look on their faces when you ask them :)
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So about the question in the other thread you haven't answered...

(and no, I never sleep)
 
TwilightFan91 said:
when someone is doing something blatantly unsafe in an airplane that can potentially result in death, it is the correct time to speak up.

if you don't think so, please feel free to contact the FAA yourself and ask them if it's recommended to "break aggressively" out of a "360 overhead pattern". I'd just LOVE to see the look on their faces when you ask them :)
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So 360 overheads are somehow unsafe now? Really? Because I do them all the time as standard pattern ops. Can you please quantify what an "aggressive break" is?
 
Tram said:
I guess your daughter was riding a horse in the city or a "populated area?"
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tree top level flying sounds like he is closer than the 500 ft he's supposed to be from people.

I don't agree that it was a populated area but I'm just sayin'
 
Doug Taylor said:
...what major metropolitan area are you logging in from this evening?
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Rule# A2: Don't use a proxy server in your same geographic location. :)

And, in addition to eating babies, Doug Taylor lands with the mixtures closed all the way!
 
Tram said:
Ohh do me! Do me!
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elmetal said:
tree top level flying sounds like he is closer than the 500 ft he's supposed to be from people.

I don't agree that it was a populated area but I'm just sayin'
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Again, the type of area is irrelevant.

(c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.
 
Blackhawk said:
Again, the type of area is irrelevant.

(c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.
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so as I said, "sounds like he is closer than the 500 feet he's supposed to be from people"

now that raises a question for myself: does that mean if I am flying over a farm or something of the sort, I can get as close as I want (assuming safety), as long as there are no buildings, vehicles, people, or "vessels" around?

(are vessels supposed to be boats??)
 
elmetal said:
so as I said, "sounds like he is closer than the 500 feet he's supposed to be from people"

now that raises a question for myself: does that mean if I am flying over a farm or something of the sort, I can get as close as I want (assuming safety), as long as there are no buildings, vehicles, people, or "vessels" around?

(are vessels supposed to be boats??)
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If a tree falls in the forest and there is noone around to hear it, does it make a sound?
 
About the ONLY reason I see for going to an authority is if you witness someone doing aerobatics in a non-aerobatic aircraft that is for rent. This DOES put innocent people at risk and I think if I witnessed this I would a) Tell the owner of the FBO that rented the airplane and b) after telling the FBO owner, I would tell the pilot what I did and why. That is about the only thing, and only because I'd want to know if someone was snap-rolling the 172 I rented to him.
 
Blackhawk said:
If a tree falls in the forest and there is noone around to hear it, does it make a sound?
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I don't have my FAR/AIM with me but what exactly is the definition of congested area, or an area where you need 1000ft agl or above?


I wonder because I sometimes fly over very suburb type places and I wonder what the population density (or whatever mesaure the FAR uses) has to be for me to go 500'
 
TwilightFan91 said:
if you don't think so, please feel free to contact the FAA yourself and ask them if it's recommended to "break aggressively" out of a "360 overhead pattern". I'd just LOVE to see the look on their faces when you ask them :)
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Well, since you asked.... it is recommended:

http://www.flyfast.org/docs/Maneuvers_Guide_ver_2.2.pdf

The FAST program is approved by the FAA. In the link you'll find the "Overhead pattern".. not only that... but you'll find multiple aircraft on the runway at the same time! :eek: in section take-offs and other things.


Believe it or not, the point of an overhead pattern is a safe, expeditious return of multiple aircraft over an airport. Generally, the time from when you enter the break till you touch down will be less time than the average CFI/student doing their crosswind leg.
 
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