Continental UAL to merge

Which airline would be the controlling entity? I hope CAL. Im curious. Aside from eliminating competition. Why does CAL want to merge with UA? Its like buying a car without an engine to find out the engine will cost 10 times more than the car. It just seems like more trouble than what its worth.
 
SeanD said:
Which airline would be the controlling entity? I hope CAL. Im curious. Aside from eliminating competition. Why does CAL want to merge with UA? Its like buying a car without an engine to find out the engine will cost 10 times more than the car. It just seems like more trouble than what its worth.
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Article says HQ will be in Chicago (teh suck...CAL is a huge part of Houston) but the CEO will be Smisek. Sounds like CAL management controls, but CAL's name and HQ are lost in favor of UAL's brand and Chicago.
 
WacoFan said:
Article says HQ will be in Chicago (teh suck...CAL is a huge part of Houston) but the CEO will be Smisek. Sounds like CAL management controls, but CAL's name and HQ are lost in favor of UAL's brand and Chicago.
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Kind of the same way USAirways and AWA did it.
 
WacoFan said:
Article says HQ will be in Chicago (teh suck...CAL is a huge part of Houston) but the CEO will be Smisek. Sounds like CAL management controls, but CAL's name and HQ are lost in favor of UAL's brand and Chicago.
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The UAL brand? You mean cramped seating and dirty old ass airplanes?
;)
 
houfo said:
Did you really get one today Jtrain? Are the letters still going out...
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No I didn't really get a recall letter, I'm around 14 from recall right now (U36XX class), I'm just giving Mike a hard time. I've convinced him at least 20 times in the last year and a half that I talked with PS personally and he told me we'd be getting recalled.
 
jtrain609 said:
No I didn't really get a recall letter, I'm around 14 from recall right now (U36XX class), I'm just giving Mike a hard time. I've convinced him at least 20 times in the last year and a half that I talked with PS personally and he told me we'd be getting recalled.
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lol.. That's hilarious. You almost had me going there. U4... still waiting.
 
jtrain609 said:
CAL loses scope, 100 seat aircraft at regionals within 5 years.
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I think 70-76 seats is truly the dividing line. No amount of money or work rules will buy 100-seaters from mainline pilots today. This isn't 1999. Even the dumbest of mainline pilots have learned the lesson at least somewhat.

Gonzo said:
Without CAL there is no way APA can hold on to scope.:mad::(
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The APA can probably hold on to current scope, although they'll have to sacrifice improvements in virtually every other area. What they don't stand a chance in hell of doing is recapturing any scope. Just a Lloyd Hill pipe dream from the beginning.

Seggy said:
Ironically enough next week the ALPA Executive Board (which are the MEC Chairmen) is meeting. Going to be a VERY interesting couple of days...
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Lots of other stuff going on, too. Going to be the most interesting EXBD since the Age-60 policy change.

jtrain609 said:
That no furlough clause Delta had worked REEEEEEEALLY well after 9/11 eh?
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Actually, yes, it did. What's commonly called "FM2," or force majeure 2, was a big victory for DALPA, with an arbitrator awarding a bunch of furloughed pilots their jobs back.

I'm generally not a big fan of no furlough clauses, as they are difficult to enforce, but they aren't always useless.

doug_or said:
I'm not too optimistic about scope, but what do those in the know think of grandfathering the current flying in? Limiting the number of 70 seaters at the combined CAL/UAL to the number currently on property in UAX colors?
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That's probably the best case scenario. Hopefully they'll fight for it.
 
Maybe Smisek found a coupon for UAL in the Val-Pak envelope last week.

Prolly like a 15% off or something. No one can turn down a deal like that.
 
So what happens to LCC? American/LCC? What happens to American for that matter...who do they marry? Does this kill LCC eventually?
 
WacoFan said:
So what happens to LCC? American/LCC? What happens to American for that matter...who do they marry? Does this kill LCC eventually?
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Bedford buys them

New Val-Pak comes out in June. 30% off Coupon from Parker.
 
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