Continental UAL to merge

[Orange Anchor]

http://tinyurl.com/CO-UAL-merge

Continental Airlines Inc. and UAL Corp.'s United Airlines are expected to announce Monday that they are merging to form the world's largest airline by passengers carried, people familiar with the matter said.

 

[OldTownPilot]

Well ####.

 

[jtrain609]

Strap in.

Here goes scope.

 

[3enginejock]

I wonder what this will mean for the regional carriers of both airlines.

 

[OldTownPilot]

I wonder what this will mean for the regional carriers of both airlines.

Who freaking cares.

The lack of COs scope will be HUGE for the industry going forward. There goes any shot of ever having large regional jets flown at a major.

 

[Socal321]

I wonder what this will mean for the regional carriers of both airlines.

Hopefully shrink. CAL is the one that is supposed to takeover decisions for the merged airlines so whatever their current RJ philosophy is will probably prevail. UA pilot union is fully committed to shrinking regional capacity. We shall see.

 

[Minuteman]

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[jtrain609]

Not a chance. You think they'd really give up ALL of those 70 seat RJ's?

No way, no how.

CAL loses scope, 100 seat aircraft at regionals within 5 years.

 

[Gonzo]

Who freaking cares.

The lack of COs scope will be HUGE for the industry going forward. There goes any shot of ever having large regional jets flown at a major.

Without CAL there is no way APA can hold on to scope.

 

[OldTownPilot]

Not a chance. You think they'd really give up ALL of those 70 seat RJ's?

No way, no how.

CAL loses scope, 100 seat aircraft at regionals within 5 years.

Well you damn well know that every 70 seat airplane at UAL will still fly for the comnied carrier out of EWR and IAH.

There is no effen way that the surviving scope is no 51+ jets. Not phyically possible. There is a greater chance of me in bed with Mariska Haggarty tonight than CALs scope surviving.

 

[Gonzo]

Can the UA pilots vote in the CAL contract?

 

[jtrain609]

Sure, but why would management give up this opportunity?

 

[Orange Anchor]

Tangent: TinyURL is a great way to hide a link to a malicious website.

I used tiny url to create the specific short link. ??? So you suggest just using a long link? Besides, JTrain can vouch for me not being malicious.

 

[MikeD]

Not a chance. You think they'd really give up ALL of those 70 seat RJ's?

No way, no how.

CAL loses scope, 100 seat aircraft at regionals within 5 years.

Aviation has always been a "never say never" industry.......

 

[OldTownPilot]

Aviation has always been a "never say never" industry.......

Yes but has there ever been a "never say never" moment that has been good for pilots?

 

[jtrain609]

Aviation has always been a "never say never" industry.......

I'll say it, heck I'm willing to put a wager on it in Vegas if you'd like.

 

[MikeD]

Yes but has there ever been a "never say never" moment that has been good for pilots?

Seemingly true. Things can theoretically go both ways, depending. Just seems aviation has always been that way.

I'll say it, heck I'm willing to put a wager on it in Vegas if you'd like.

Now we're talking.....

 

[Trip7]

Excellent news! This industry needs consolidation to get rid of excess capacity and get the legacies back to profitability. Great, great news. I believe American and Airways will be forced to merge next.

 

[Orange Anchor]

Funny thing is mergers are always touted as a synergy where 1+1=3 when in reality most mergers barely make 1+1=1.5.

Mergers are usually like train wrecks. Those who can jump before the collision often do well. Those still on the train when they meet just have to live with the aftermath.

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A good friend of mine who follows closely the airlines noted that merging airlines is like merging warring Indian tribes.. er.. native American communities. Each has its own customs, mores and totem poles. He also noted that in most mergers within 12-18 months the merged carrier suffers a fatal accident.

 

[MikeD]

Funny thing is mergers are always touted as a synergy where 1+1=3 when in reality most mergers barely make 1+1=1.5.

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While the USAirways/America West merger was, and appears to still be, a clusterbuck; how is the Delta/NWA merger going so far?

 

[CaptBill]

Hey Doug, might need to change name to UACapt or maybe UAFO.